Does anyone know cost of 360 Battery upgrade

Davkelly007

LITHIUM BATTERY UPGRADE

Battle Born RV Batteries

270Ah 12-volt Lithium Battery Bank w/ Internal Heat

3,000-watt MultiPlus Inverter/Charger
Anyone know the cost of this upgrade?

EasternJL

@Davkelly007 - I know at least one person posted who has this upgrade.  I believe  @Trailpixie has this package, so perhaps some pricing can be shared.  I'm assuming retail will be expensive with that expensive battery on there. 

Yoshi_TAB

Hi,

On the MSRP Nucamp Order Form (dtd 4/2024) , it's $7105.  Looking on line, a Multiplus is around $1200 and the battery is around  $2400 (I think if I have the right models).  

Davkelly007

Thanks. That's what I was thinking. Pretty expensive install 

EasternJL

Yeah-- you would certainly do better simply buying some other brand of battery and inverter -- and installing it yourself.  

Yoshi_TAB

Having done a similar install, I would add about $500-$750 for wires, fuzes,  switches, and incidentals and that seems generous.    

donmontalvo

I bought my 2024 320S in October. I decided not to pay for the lithium upgrade, since I knew I only needed an inverter and a second battery. Did the work myself, with the selfless help from Battle Born (support) and Victron (Facebook). My intent was always boondocking and being a snowbird. My needs never included a microwave, and if I plan my routes well, will not need air conditioning much. In a pinch, I can start up my Champion 2500 fuel generator, and then there is always shoring at an RV park.

Trailpixie

I am going to post a lessons learned on my TAB 360 Black Canyon with lithium, but I will say this:

It is complicated and a bit overwrought. The complexity is high. The battery is so powerful that I think the solar panels are going to struggle to recharge it to full unless it is high-sun in the middle of summer. It's battery heater and the poor performance of lithium charging in the cold make it a poor choice in the shoulder season. Stay tuned as I learn more. 

elbolillo

@Trailpixie

I don't know why you think is has poor poor charging. Battleborn batteries charge temps are 25-135 degrees.

And solar should not have any difficulty charging the battery. With the solar on the roof and an external solar panel I have no problems keeping my 400ah battery bank charged.

AZGal

Can anyone post a photo of battery compartments of a 360. About to buy a 2025 TAB 360 Boondock BlackCanyon. I know it has only 1 BB. I have 3 BB 100s which I had put in my 2021 400 Solo which was totaled last month in accident, Is there space for 1 or 2 more BBs in 360? Does it have a Victron Multiplu Inverter/Charger able to handle more batteries? or will I have to upgrade that too?

Yoshi_TAB

Hi,  

To clarify, are you buying a 360 or 360CS model?   The battery is  located in different positions for each model.  In the 360 model, the battery is located in the back behind the AC (top picture), the 360 CS has the battery  located in the front.  I have a 360 CS and I'm in the process of relocating a bigger battery to the rear (same location as the non CS model) , eliminating the battery in the front.  The mutliplus only comes with the lithium upgrade option,  Black Canyon.  The WFCO converter/charger is the 8955 model.

Here is a picture of the 360



Here is a picture of a 360CS  where the battery is located for the  360.

cschaepe

AZGal said:

Can anyone post a photo of battery compartments of a 360. About to buy a 2025 TAB 360 Boondock BlackCanyon. I know it has only 1 BB. I have 3 BB 100s which I had put in my 2021 400 Solo which was totaled last month in accident, Is there space for 1 or 2 more BBs in 360? Does it have a Victron Multiplu Inverter/Charger able to handle more batteries? or will I have to upgrade that too?

Only space for 2 BB you need to move the bracket over a bit though.

I decided to sell my one BB and replace it with one epoch 460Ah battery. Fits with no cutting just needed to undo the rear panel when I installed

AZGal

Yoshi_TAB thank you for the photo. I'm about to buy the TAB 360. I will see it on Saturday. It just arrived today. Are you adding an additional battery? Have you camped with it and how well does 1 battery last with fridge and recharging various devices. I dry camp in National Forest campgrounds for days-weeks without power. 

cschaepe Thank you for your input. Did you rewire or upgrade any other components? Have you had the opportunity to dry camp and see how well the roof panels charge it?

Yoshi_TAB

Hi @AZGal , I am in the process of moving the battery so not actual experience yet.  I am going with one larger battery vs. two, just for the reason of a simpler hook up and a bit less wiring.  The CS model is a bit more tricky as you have to move some of the wiring (OEM solar panels), from the front to the rear of the trailer.  It's not hard..but takes a bit more time.    One frustrating part is the Alde unit is so close to the battery ON/OFF switch (see my photo) , I can not remove the screws for the switch.  So, I'm just going to pull the wire from the battery switch to the battery  from the front to the rear (instead of replacing with a shorter cable).  One thing I find interesting is my battery cables are 4 AWG.  When I look at  other OEM installs,  they have  smaller  AWG wiring size.  Also, the CS has the second cooler in the outside galley which I'm finding is an energy hog.  When boondocking will just use the main inside fridge.   Congrats on your purchase.  

cschaepe

AZGal said:

Yoshi_TAB thank you for the photo. I'm about to buy the TAB 360. I will see it on Saturday. It just arrived today. Are you adding an additional battery? Have you camped with it and how well does 1 battery last with fridge and recharging various devices. I dry camp in National Forest campgrounds for days-weeks without power. 

cschaepe Thank you for your input. Did you rewire or upgrade any other components? Have you had the opportunity to dry camp and see how well the roof panels charge it?

AZGal said:

Yoshi_TAB thank you for the photo. I'm about to buy the TAB 360. I will see it on Saturday. It just arrived today. Are you adding an additional battery? Have you camped with it and how well does 1 battery last with fridge and recharging various devices. I dry camp in National Forest campgrounds for days-weeks without power. 

cschaepe Thank you for your input. Did you rewire or upgrade any other components? Have you had the opportunity to dry camp and see how well the roof panels charge it?

It was a drop in replacement no rewiring needed in many respects it was easier than 2 BB batteries just needed to move 1 bracket and add a riser.  One thing of note was a small wood trim needed to be removed to get the battery in/out but that is just a few screws.
With 1 BB after a day or 2 without a ton of sun we were running out of juice and always worried and turning things off.
With 460Ah I never worry and could go for a full week with little to no sun.
The battery which has heating and Bluetooth app cost 1500 I sold my new BB for 600 so it was the same price as 1 BB for more than more than double 460 vs 200 Ah. 
The math just made much more sense.

cschaepe