Anybody tried the el cheapo lithium batteries?

I just replaced the original deep cycle battery on my Tab320 with this lithium from Walmart and it's working fine.

12V 100Ah LiFePO4 Lithium Battery, Group 31 Deep Cycle with Smart 100A BMS & Low Temp Cut-Off - Walmart.com

Did the Victron software upgrade which happily went without a hitch. Has anyone else tried these low-cost lithium batteries? Please provide any feedback if you have. I'm thinking about getting a second one to connect if people have had good experiences. Thanks!

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  • Grumpy_G
    Grumpy_G Member Posts: 766

    When I got a Vatrer 100Ah LiFePo over three years ago when they were still more expensive than today but it was a budget option back then. Still working fine and the capacity tests good as well. Some of the very cheap batteries may use lower quality cells but if the battery only does 2000 cycles instead of the promised 5000+ that's still years of camping.

  • pthomas745
    pthomas745 Administrator, Moderator Posts: 4,654

    I bought my lithium in 2022, and the company was "Ampere Time". It eventually became LiTime a year later. No frills, not even "low temp charging protection", which would have been a 50 dollar "upgrade" on what was already a 400 dollar battery. The battery is still going strong after 4 years, and on a recent test to determine what capacity it still holds, it came out to around 97 amp hours still available from the original 100 amp hours. (Take that test with a grain of salt, though!) LiTime, of course, became a huge brand seemingly overnight, with a huge array of products.

    Many owners passed over the Battleborns that NuCamp was installing, especially because of the cost. The market for lithium batteries has expanded in ways most of us never imagined, and many owners have used batteries from companies that I had never heard of before. With all the review sites all around, and the way that reviewers tear apart batteries and show you what and how they are built, you can find many well built batteries from companies you might never hear of. The parts are fairly generic as far at the BMS's go, and the main differences are the cell types, and the manufacturing quality, such as welds and wiring, etc. The general feeling is: the batteries are "mostly" coming from the same basic China plants, with companies like WalMart, etc, asking those companies to build a battery for them or simply slap a Walmart sticker on an existing product.

    The biggest cause of lithium failures (Will Prowse tells me so) is failures of the BMS boards in the lithium batteries. And, the failure percentage is apparently very low. I'm not sure if I would take one of the "less spendy" batteries out into an extreme environment (on a boat, for example) or try to push a "no name" battery to run a home or something, but for something as simple as our trailers, most lithium batteries will fit the bill. I agree with Grumpy: 2000 cycles is still much more than you might expect from a lead acid of the same Group Size, with more amp hours available, also.

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  • EPOD1
    EPOD1 Member Posts: 37

    My only question is:

    How do you sleep at night…..

    (With a monster under your bed)

  • Horigan
    Horigan Member Posts: 905

    Your concern/comment would be more valid with cheap Li-ion batteries under your bed. LiFEPO4 batteries are much safer, probably more so than lead acid batteries.

    Rich
    2019 T@b 400
    2025 Toyota Highlander 2.4L Turbo
    Bellingham WA
  • elbolillo
    elbolillo Member Posts: 575

    I would assume you are being sarcastic. Under most everyone's beds that have a Tab are multiple sources of ignition, ie. furnaces and water heaters. The converter is not very far away either. The plain and simple truth is that LiFePo4 batteries are known for being very safe and not prone to combustion. I would be inclined to believe that RV fires are more likely started because of an issue with the propane and furnace systems, or generators, than batteries.

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