Inner "bumper" insulation.

This week I have been re-working the rear storage area behind the sofa back and inside the T@B grey plastic bumper (it holds the tail lights and license plate). I noticed there is no insulation inside this bumper as a gap of a couple of feet exists between the upper shell and where the floor starts. It is well over 10 square feet of space and I image the lack of insulation has considerable impact on heating and cooling systems. Has anyone insulated this area? Could it have been left open for some reason?
Stancil Campbell
2011 T@B
Rockingham, NC

Comments

  • ChanW
    ChanW Member Posts: 3,165
    I had to seal up that area, as the factory styrofoam was kind of flopping around back there.
    I used foam board of the same thickness (½" I I think) but sealed it in there with aluminum foil tape. It's held up pretty well for two-plus years now
    Chan  -  near Buffalo NY
    2014 S Maxx
    2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah! 

     A_Little_T@b'll_Do_Ya
  • Estancio
    Estancio Member Posts: 243
    ChanW, mine did not have styrofoam. No insulation at all. I was considering stuffing it with fiberglass insulation. Is that a bad idea?
    Stancil Campbell
    2011 T@B
    Rockingham, NC

  • Verna
    Verna Member Posts: 6,876
    Reflectex can be used as a substitute. It is like bubble pack covered with aluminum material. One layer is around an R value of 6. You can find a small roll of Reflectex in the insulation department of Lowe's or Home Depot. 

    Since  you have the Dutchman T@B (I think) manufactured before 2010, it's hard telling who took the insulation out of the area, or whether it was there originally. 
    Verna, Columbus, IN
    2021 T@B 320S  Boondock “The T@B”
    Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
  • ChanW
    ChanW Member Posts: 3,165
    It looks like it's a rectangular shaped space.
    You could get a small chunk of ½" foil-backed poly-iso foam from home depot, cut it to size, and stick it in there with tape.
    The foil tape I used is amazingly sticky, and lasts forever, where duct tape would fail after a time.
    Chan  -  near Buffalo NY
    2014 S Maxx
    2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah! 

     A_Little_T@b'll_Do_Ya
  • Photomom
    Photomom Member Posts: 2,217
    How do you access that area?
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
  • Verna
    Verna Member Posts: 6,876
    Photomom, you probably can't access that area because of your storage area with the lid. 
    Verna, Columbus, IN
    2021 T@B 320S  Boondock “The T@B”
    Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
  • Michigan_Mike
    Michigan_Mike Member Posts: 2,858
    edited September 2016
    ChanW said:
    It looks like it's a rectangular shaped space.
    You could get a small chunk of ½" foil-backed poly-iso foam from home depot, cut it to size, and stick it in there with tape.
    The foil tape I used is amazingly sticky, and lasts forever, where duct tape would fail after a time.
    I agree, the aluminum foil tape "I thought was rather an expensive purchase" has proved to be amazingly versatile and useful in the other various applications I've used it for.  I tucked some small wiring in along the bench area of my trailer and used this tape to keep the wiring concealed and out of harms way via use of the bench area.  I also purchased a roll of the reflectex insulation from Home Depot and plan to beef up the insulation in the rear of my trailer too and the aluminum tape will be utilized there as well.   
    Mike - Elmira, Mi / 2019 T@B 400 / 2021 Chevy Silverado LTZ
  • Estancio
    Estancio Member Posts: 243
    Mine was a first run Little Guy "Demo" T@B that I bought directly from the Ohio office during their first year of manufacturing. There was never insulation in that area. Accessed thru the hinged lid behind the sofa seat back. 
    Stancil Campbell
    2011 T@B
    Rockingham, NC

  • Estancio
    Estancio Member Posts: 243
    For the past week I worked on improving the inner bumper area. Added foiled styrofoam insulation. Two laters of 1/2". Cut 25" x 70" and they slid right into the space. Should have an R value of about 5. Then I added some wood framing to accommodate a hinged shelf. 70" piano hinge is great. Storage compartment will be for pillows. Shelf serves as a level night stand. Total cost less that $100. 
    Stancil Campbell
    2011 T@B
    Rockingham, NC

  • RollingLagrima
    RollingLagrima Member Posts: 435
    Oooooooh I like that "Estancio"!! On my list now.
    Sally, "PlaT@Bus" 2016 T@B Sofitel Maxx-S (plata=silver; SP), previously Little Guy 2014 Silver Shadow LE, TV -- 2013 Chevy Avalanche + two hounds.
  • ChanW
    ChanW Member Posts: 3,165
    edited October 2016
    @Verna The effective R-Value of Reflectix is pretty controversial! I go with the 'snake oil' view...  :o

    http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/qa-spotlight/bubble-wrap-duct-insulation-good-idea
    Chan  -  near Buffalo NY
    2014 S Maxx
    2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah! 

     A_Little_T@b'll_Do_Ya
  • Estancio
    Estancio Member Posts: 243
    ChanW, the insulation is not reflectix. It is white styrofoam with a foil covering. 
    Stancil Campbell
    2011 T@B
    Rockingham, NC

  • ChanW
    ChanW Member Posts: 3,165
    Nice work. Looks great
    Chan  -  near Buffalo NY
    2014 S Maxx
    2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah! 

     A_Little_T@b'll_Do_Ya