Hi Everyone - My wife and I are considering buying a 2025 Tab 400 when they come out in a few months as our first trailer. We like the 2025 mainly for the larger steel container on the tongue with dedicated space for the sewage hose. We've been impressed with the reported quality we see in numerous online reviews but have a few concerns we'd like to get feedback on from the forum to make our final decision. Our questions are listed below to make it easier to follow. Of course, we'd also love to hear of any other areas we should be aware of as well!
1. Alde Heat System - While it sounds like a great system, has it been reliable? Has anyone had any leak issues? If something does go wrong with the plumbing, is it possible to access it to fix it throughout the trailer? We've seen some reported corrosion issues, but that doesn't seem to be common - but is it problematic?
2. Wet Bathroom - We're a little worried that the laminate wood door will warp from frequent exposure to moisture/steam from the shower, is that an issue? We looked at two new 2024's recently, and neither bathroom door really closed flush with the wall, there was a 1" gap at the top. And is the curtain an annoyance when showering or afterward as it needs to dry? The Intech Sol trailer, for comparison, has a sealed capsule wet bath that seems easier to work with (although not having a sink in their bathroom isn't great). Any other water-related issues with the Tab 400 bath?
3. Rooftop Solar Panels - They seem like a great feature, but because we'll have to store our trailer outside, we're wondering if they are subject to weather damage. We live in the Sierras and can get heavy snow, strong thunderstorms with driving rain, and occasionally hail. So, we're a bit worried about them.
4. A/C & Other Systems - Just in general, any common issues with the electronics, appliances, A/C, etc.?
Overall, the Tab 400 seems like a great trailer from all the reviews we've seen, but we haven't heard anyone talk about the above items specifically. So, if folks would like to share both their positive and negative experiences, we'd be incredibly appreciative. And who knows, maybe next year we'll run into some of you!
Thanks very much for your help!
Cheers,
Dave
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1. Alde. We have not had any issues with the Alde system. It has run without any issues and served us well even down to outside temps of 26 degrees.
2. Wet bath. This is a definite upgrade from our previous '21 Tab 320. I am 6' tall and have plenty of room in the 400 compared to the 320. After showering we wring out the curtain and wipe down the shower area. This has worked well for us and have not run into any issues.
3. Rooftop solar. We have had our's stored outside this past year without any problems. Obviously, a nasty storm with hail could cause damage.
4. We don't use the A/C. The Nautilus system has worked great for us. Most of our camping is without hookups. Refilling the water tank has worked great using the nautilus system.
The only issue that I have run into is with the watersealing in the nautilus compartment. It is a very poor design and it was not caulked correctly which was allowing water to leak in. I fixed that.
I immediately replaced the main cabin fan with a MaxxAir fan. Multiple fan speeds and a remote are great for good airflow. I also did my own install of 400ah of batteries and 3000w inverter along with an external solar port for additional panels.
Ken / 2023 Tab 400 “La Bolita” (23,000+ miles) / 2024 Toyota Sequoia
2024 - 3 Trips - 35 nights - 9 National Parks, 3 National Forests
1. We have had no major issues with the Alde model 3020. For hot water in the shower, it sometimes gets cool for a few seconds and then gets hot again. Perhaps we were one off with that or maybe it's an issue with the 400s and Alde 3020. We did have issues with the original 2019 bathroom sink, but it's a newer model sink now. It was replaced under warranty. We switched to the new glycol for the Aldi, or whatever it's called, that's standard now. Is that the corrosion you're asking about? We had none, but swapped glycol proactively to the better product. I suspect that the Alde 3020 will soon become the Alde 3030 in the 400 since it's now available on the T@b model 360.
2. Wet bath never an issue. I see the slightest amount of mold in the corners of the bathroom ceiling, but I will ignore it until spring when I'll clean it out. We even still use the original (washable) shower curtain that's in perfect shape. We've been camping regularly for 7 seasons now.
3. I did have a problem with the rooftop solar because of a stupid error by me when doing some maintenance. I blew out the electronics of both panels in 2023 and they were replaced. Replacements are available via Amazon. For a 2019 model, since updated, these were almost an exact match. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BMNGVV3 I'm sure that you can find replacements, if necessary. I parked "down the hill" over each Tahoe winter and that solved the heavy snow load issue. All summer long we kept it at the house. We moved down the hill in 2022.
4. No issues with the electronics at all. Zilch. I did add a Micro-air 364 (since discontinued) softstart to the a/c in order to ease the a/c starting and cycling load. The 400 runs great on a Honda eu2200i generator and the Coolcat a/c is super quiet now.
Good luck on your decision. I'm 6' and have no issues with the bed, shower, kitchen or dining areas. We did upgrade to 200w lithium in year 5 and are glad to see it standard now.
2019 T@B 400 BL
2021 Toyota Sequoia 4WD
Our 400 is a 2019; so we’ve just completed our 5th season. We spend 30 - 40 nights on board each season and travel 10 to 12 k kilometres each season.
So far there have been no issues of consequence. Everything works and continues to works.
If we have a criticism it is with the bed. Considering our age and mobility our preference would be for twin bunks.
The 12/120 volt fridge is more than adequate and preserves the large hanging closet and storage shelves. The TV and Jenson radio are seldom used.
I should also mention that I am 6’-4”” and having turned 80 am on occasion bumping into this or that inside..
We tow with a Subaru Ascent and have had no issues to report.
The overall quality, design, and materials of our 400 makes it very difficult to settle for other products. It is simply better.
St Catharines, ON
Typically, I use the shower facility at the campground to minimize gray tank usage whenever possible, but have used it at times. As mentioned above, just leave it hanging to dry; running the fan also helps. FYI, I moved it to the right side of the entry door for storage (shoelace to tighten mid-section) as it seemed to interfere with the toilet seat in the up position.
I have gone a week multiple times without the gray or black tanks becoming even half full, using conservative water practices. E.g., You don't need a full sink of water to wash dishes. You can always use a portable "honey wagon" if you find it necessary for longer stays. No issues with my solar panels - stored in driveway during summer season but inside during winter.
This is my first - and hopefully last - RV. This forum has been an invaluable resource with a wealth of information and experts willing to help each other out.
2021 Tab400 Boondock; TV 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee; Minnesota