Availability of Alde fluid near Toronto

CanadianTabber

Hi all!
Can anyone suggest where we can buy Alde fluid by the gallon near Toronto?
I enquired about this to a RV store in Owen Sound and they quoted 450 bucks for 4 1 gallon jugs Plus 250 bucks for shipping.
The RV store in Erin Ontario, where I bought my 2021 320 new, does not sell by the gallon, they only do the whole exchange for 800 bucks.
I may have to go this way or drive 4 hours to Owen Sound....all suggestions appreciated!

Brent

WayneW

Can you get it through Amazon?  $67.55 /gal. 

CanadianTabber

WayneW said:

Can you get it through Amazon?  $67.55 /gal. 

Yes , and I'm may have to go this way. 

RCB

I ordered 4 gal of Century from Amazon but only 3 arrived. Amazon refunded for 1 and I re-ordered the 4th. Sicard RV in Smithville carries Century 1. If it is Rhomar you want, I think SmithvilleRV may carry it.

Mobean

I’ve bought directly from NüCamp and Truma in the past. $55 or so per gal + Shipping. No need to use Amazon

ThetisTab

The currently ecommended heat transfer fluid
G12 evo is available at any Volkswagon Dealer parts department for about $39 Canadian!

pthomas745

The G12 Evo or any of the various European glycols are NOT approved for US Aldes.  The G12 and G13 stuff is ethanol, and...extremely toxic.  I know that many owners have searched for "ALDE Glycol" and wound up on European web pages, and even had one owner tell me the "dealer said it was ok".  But, these are not approved for the US Aldes. 

This is what the manual says.  Note the "Generally Recognized As Safe" comment.  

RCB

In Europe the G13 or equivalent has been used since day 1 in Alde systems. It was explained to me that US regs do not permit that an ethanol glycol can be used in a system that has a parallel domestic water component ie: hot water in our case. It was further explained, by Truma, that since the heating component (with glycol) was not under pressure and the hot water system is under pressure. Any leakage would be from the hot water side into the heating side ; thus diluting the glycol and not contaminating the hot water. Your US regs apparently do not consider this variation in the design of the Alde system. 

I’m not sure if there is a similar reg in Canada (underwriters Laboratory - UL) unless it is a joint reg of which there are many.

There are I believe a lot more Alde systems in Europe and considering the system has been around for more than a decade; why would G13 (or 12) not be a satisfactory alternative - other than a regulation that was not written to address the unique characteristics of the Alde. 

The regulation I think was directed at large domestic hot water systems that are heated by heat transfer glycol under pressure; meaning any leakage would contaminate the domestic hot water. The Alde is the reverse in terms of pressurization.

AnOldUR

RCB said:

... why would G13 (or 12) not be a satisfactory alternative - other than a regulation that was not written to address the unique characteristics of the Alde.

The times our water system is under pressure are when pressure is built up through the fresh water pump or when connected to shore water. While dry camping if the fresh water pump is off and pressure drops, there is the possibility that the small amount of pressure created to pump glycol through the Alde system will be enough to contaminate the water in the hot water portion of the system. 

I'd think that when on the road an neither system is pressurized, cross contamination would be possible if there was a leak.

Between that and it being more environmentally friendly, we'll stick with the safer product.