Lagun Table or old style table?

webers3

Have been very interested in the TAB S and watched many videos, finally went to a local dealer to see one up close. It had the "new" style of table which was quite disappointing, the dealer didn't know if the old style was still available. One of the things that attracted me to this camper was how easy it was to set-up the bed by folding the table down. The new table takes few more steps to set up and fiddle with the slats, and as a table is pretty useless for two people to eat or work at it, so my question is is the old style table still available? And if not are there other practical solutions for a bigger table? Thank you in advance

Homebodyatheart

Our Max S is on order, but I agree about the table top. It seems heavy, it's ugly, and pretty narrow.  It's functional. I do like the swivel feature of it, though. I've seen a few pics on this forum of hand crafted wood tops to replace the one that comes with it. I am thinking of doing the same thing and replacing the one that comes with it.

Nomad

Don't know if that table is still available or not but am betting there's a bunch sitting in peoples storage not being used like mine. If you can't get it from the factory, someone here may sell you theirs.

cbarnhill

Webers3. Are you, by any chance, near Phoenix? You're welcome to my original table. 

webers3

Thank you all for quick response and suggestion, glad to hear old tables are still available, hopefully still will be when we decide to get the T@B.
@cbarnhill, not near Phoenix but that would be one of our destinations regardless of what camper we decide on.

Verna

Check Goodwill

Estancio

Free one in North Carolina as well....let me know if you need it.

SusanB

We have been living off and on in our camper since Jan 2015. After just six months the old style table broke. It does fold neatly down but is not built for prolonged use. This year I ended up putting in some framework to support the table in the down position and it has held up since February 

marknjudy

Might be a free one in Texas if I can convince my wife to let me put some screws on her baby so I can do the slat mod. 

Tabaz

No - please take mine. In fact, I'll give YOU $10 to take it.

marknjudy

   

RollingLagrima

Ditto. Free. El Centro, CA. All yours.  All kidding aside, the number of us giving these away should be a "clue"... AND, to make my point, I will tell you, I don't even have the new Lagun. I have a teak shower stool and bed slats. 

Nomad

See - Tables coming out of the woodwork :-)

Tabaz

Many owners have donated theirs to local yacht clubs for use as boat anchors.

webers3

Thank you all, I think I am getting the point but still not fan of the Lagun table

Tabaz

I consider the Lagun table one of the top 3 mods on my Tab. Extremely versatile and well designed. Mine is secured to the passenger seat pedastile. Perfect for my everyday use of the Tab.

Tabaz

Oops, driver side pedestal.

RollingLagrima

@webers3, maybe take delivery with lagun "boxed and un-installed" and after pondering things after delivery you can decide if you want to install it or take one of our free tables.  That way, you have the newest on hand but can go with "old school" instead if you choose. It is probably hard to understand why we all walked from the shin-crushing-finger-pinching-swear and hernia-inducing beast. Search this forum for "table" and you may come to your own un-biased conclusion on the state of things...  

ScottG

webers3 said:

Thank you all, I think I am getting the point but still not fan of the Lagun table

I understand your criticisms of the Lagun table--while it's apparently the cat's meow for many T@bbers, it involves compromises just like anything else. It really comes down to how you use your camper.

I also think the original table is a pretty clever design. However, we found the size a bit confining for our purposes, and--since we leave the bed set up 95% of the time anyway--the legs occupied a lot of under-bed space that could be put to better use. I replaced the table with bed slats, and we use a compact folding camp table for those rare occasions when we eat inside. YMMV!

mona

I'm still laughing about the boat anchor.

Sharon_is_SAM

ScottG, You have a good point regarding freeing up space under the bed.  The bed slats offer a big improvement. As I recall, some folks complained that the table as a bed support rocked- not the good rock, the motion rock.  The slats offer stable support.  Have not heard if Tabbers are happy with the  new PV bed slat version as so many people have created their own.

lapowers57

Depending on how you camp you may be eating most of your meals outside.  We replaced our table with bed slats and it has made a world of difference on how roomy it feels inside during the day and how quickly the bed can be put up and put away.  We are currently using a small folding camping table, it can easily be moved in and out of the trailer and is adequate for eating when the weather doesn't allow eating outside.  With the table there was no room to move inside the T@B as it was always there and because of the way it folded there was really not good leg room when sitting.  We love having no table in the T@B during the day.  And yes I have a table you can have for free here in Connecticut.

ericnliz

webers3, Liz & I tried desperately to actually "like" the old style table, right up to the point of using it for the bed support. Having a very bad back, the table would actually "sink" when laid on, and created a dip that drove my back crazy. Not only that, but would make very strange creaking noises when you turned over in bed. OUTSKIE with the old table, in with bed slats, and have been a happy camper ever since! Along with the difficulty of putting it up & down [cursing, pinched fingers, bruised shins, etc.] when being used for both a table, or bed support, it now resides in my garage for a work side bench. I'll up the ante to $20.00 from what Outback AZ offered just to take it away, although the donation to the yacht club for a boat anchor still has me chuckling!  

jdargis

We took the design of the old table, removed 6 inches, had the new table made out of 3/4" plywood, had it covered with a light birch Formica.  The table, with 1- 5 1/2" slat make the foundation for the bed mode.  I think they missed the mark at PV, for designing a table with the Lagun and not utilizing as the bed base.  I think the space of storing all the slats and storing the table below, defeated the benefit of the Lagun.  I don't know how to load pictures on this site, but contact me at lawrencedargis@gmail.com with your email and I will send you pictures.

ChanW

I have to put a plug in for the original table. We think it's fine! In fact I'd have to say we even like it!

I have put rails in and we use bed slats sometimes, while using the table outside for coffee and dominoes in the sun. The rails, in addition to providing functional support for the slats, are good for supporting the table at the right bed height, which prevents the squeaking and sagging that ericnliz found difficult (note that the table does have adjustable feet, so that it can be made higher or lower to accommodate the correct bed height).

It is heavy and awkward to move in and or of the Tab, and raising and lowering it takes some practice. I think the heaviness helps make it more stable as a table, however.

At times we've found that removing it completely from the space helps, like when packing, or when cleaning out the Tab. I also tended to remove it completely from the Tab when I was solo, traveling with the dog, so he'd have a bigger floor space.

It lacks in the weather-proof department though - it isn't waterproof, and water destroys the particleboard top if it seeps in along the edges.

I think that, if the Lagun table converted to bed slats, was easily stowable (like bed slats), and had a base to attach so it could be moved around to sunny spots outdoors, it would be worth trading in the existing 'old style' heavy table.

Justjudy

We loved the lagun table, but felt it was too small. So we ordered a new top from Pleasant Valley -  28 1/2" x 22 1/2". We haven't mounted it yet because we just got our T@B back from being serviced at the dealer. A story for another thread. The new top will swing back against the seat back just like the smaller one, but we think it will will be a much more useful size. I made a cardboard model to test out my theories before ordering. The only thing I worry about is if it will be too heavy for the mounting the way it cantilevers out. Time will tell. In the second photo below, the larger top is sitting atop the small one.

marknjudy

ChanW mentions that he wishes the Lagun table was more stowable. How does everyone stow it? I guess I assumed that it disassembled partly and lay under the bed slats. 

Justjudy

The top comes off and the support breaks into two sections. We stow the lot under the bed slats. It seems easy to me. There are no legs blocking under the bed like with the old table. There's more room to stow things.

marknjudy

Perfect! That's what I presumed. That would work perfectly. 

gulfarea

I use the table top as some of the bed slats that way I need less bed slats. Art

marknjudy

 That's a good idea. I'm not sure I want a table that long. Of course, until I can convince DW to let me drill a couple of holes in her new baby girl, I can just speculate.