VICTRON

fourthruschool
fourthruschool Member Posts: 5
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We just got back from Acadia Blackwoods with our 2024 NUCAMP 320S.  We were running off of solar.  we had 100 percent battery when we unhooked.  We were GTG the first two nights then something went haywire the second morning.  Our I phones could not connect consistently to the Victron and when it did, it pulled up a 'REDFERD SHUNT" and a "REDFERD SOLAR".   Our SHUNT and SOLAR were not receiving predictably into the I PHONE.   CAN someone intentionally stop the VICTRON from being received from a paired device?

We had no power the third night with 39 degrees outside so we used a portable gas heater for a few minutes and awakened to an inside temperature of 63.  We had electrical hookup en route and everything seem to reset itself and now home with no issues.  

As asked above, can someone intentionally stop the pairing from functioning properly?  If so, how do I prevent?  How did VICTRON APP  pull up the "REDFERD SHUNT" and "REDFERD SOLAR"?  
 
Thanks for your constructive comments.

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  • pthomas745
    pthomas745 Administrator, Moderator Posts: 4,530
    Have you set the Victron to your own password? Victrons are in many different kinds of campers, and you may have been picking up another camper's device. 
    Are you picking up your Victron now? 
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  • fourthruschool
    fourthruschool Member Posts: 5
    We did update our password from the default 000000(six zeroes).  We are picking up my own VICTRON now.   Thru day two AM we could read our VICTRON then something happened and we could read nothing consistently.

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  • rfuss928
    rfuss928 Member Posts: 1,181
    Very low battery voltage would limit or disable the Victron functionality and certainly Bluetooth.  This would also explain the no power situation.  Do you have another volt meter?

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  • Bill&Suze
    Bill&Suze Member Posts: 174
    It does sound like what @pthomas745 suggested, that your app was communicating with a nearby neighbor's SmartShunt and SmartSolar setup. I've seen this many times at various campgrounds, including on Mt. Desert, but our devices were not displaced on the app readout by neighboring devices - we could see them though.
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  • elbolillo
    elbolillo Member Posts: 549
    The Victron app will see any devices within range. That does not mean that the app actually connected to those devices.

    What is your battery setup? Capacity? You said you had “electrical hookup en route? What does that mean? 
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  • Marceline
    Marceline Member Posts: 1,747
    edited October 2024
    fourthruschool said:
    We just got back from Acadia Blackwoods with our 2024 NUCAMP 320S.  We were running off of solar.  we had 100 percent battery when we unhooked.  We were GTG the first two nights then something went haywire the second morning.  Our I phones could not connect consistently to the Victron and when it did, it pulled up a 'REDFERD SHUNT" and a "REDFERD SOLAR".   Our SHUNT and SOLAR were not receiving predictably into the I PHONE.   CAN someone intentionally stop the VICTRON from being received from a paired device?

    We had no power the third night with 39 degrees outside so we used a portable gas heater for a few minutes and awakened to an inside temperature of 63.  We had electrical hookup en route and everything seem to reset itself and now home with no issues.  

    As asked above, can someone intentionally stop the pairing from functioning properly?  If so, how do I prevent?  How did VICTRON APP  pull up the "REDFERD SHUNT" and "REDFERD SOLAR"?  
     
    Thanks for your constructive comments.

    I think your phones "could not connect consistently to the Victron" because your T@B battery was dying or dead. The Victron devices are powered from your T@B battery. Separately, your phones could see a neighbor's Victron devices because the app will see any powered-up Victron devices in its vicinity. We recently we had a T@B rally in NorCal with ~70 trailers and I could see dozens of Victron devices on my Victron Connect app. It's a good idea to use the app to rename your devices to something that is unique to you (like whoever owns the REDFERD RV did). It's also a good idea to change the passcode if you're worried about someone accidentally/maliciously monkeying with your Victron settings.
    You don't say if you have a lithium battery or a lead acid battery. If the former, it probably went into low voltage cutoff and hopefully your solar is now restoring the battery. This shouldn't harm the Battleborns that NuÇamp uses. OTOH, if you have a lead acid battery, it's lost one of its nine lives. When boondocking it's a good idea to keep a close watch on the Smart Shunt section of the app to see your net power use/production so you make make adjustments as needed before you kill the battery. 
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  • fourthruschool
    fourthruschool Member Posts: 5
    rfuss928 said:
    Very low battery voltage would limit or disable the Victron functionality and certainly Bluetooth.  This would also explain the no power situation.  Do you have another volt meter?
    i am acquiring a volt meter.  any recommenndations?

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  • fourthruschool
    fourthruschool Member Posts: 5
    pthomas745 said:
    Have you set the Victron to your own password? Victrons are in many different kinds of campers, and you may have been picking up another camper's device. 
    Are you picking up your Victron now? 
    Yes, 
     Victron appears to be functioning properly now.
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  • pthomas745
    pthomas745 Administrator, Moderator Posts: 4,530
    There are many to choose from: these "Autoranging" multimeters are very easy to use.


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  • fourthruschool
    fourthruschool Member Posts: 5
    elbolillo said:
    The Victron app will see any devices within range. That does not mean that the app actually connected to those devices.

    What is your battery setup? Capacity? You said you had “electrical hookup en route? What does that mean? 
    elbolillo said:
    The Victron app will see any devices within range. That does not mean that the app actually connected to those devices.

    What is your battery setup? Capacity? You said you had “electrical hookup en route? What does that mean? 
    elbolillo said:
    The Victron app will see any devices within range. That does not mean that the app actually connected to those devices.

    What is your battery setup? Capacity? You said you had “electrical hookup en route? What does that mean? 
    the batteries are lithium standard with the NUCAMP TAB 320S.   We had a night in Vermont on the way there and one in New York with full electric hookup so when we departed these campgrounds we were at 100 percent charged.

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  • rfuss928
    rfuss928 Member Posts: 1,181
    I like to have a voltage display constantly available.  I used a "cigarette lighter" voltmeter like this for a while.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TM8VWX8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    You may find a much more versatile multimeter useful for many other troubleshooting tasks.

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  • elbolillo
    elbolillo Member Posts: 549
    fourthruschool said:
    elbolillo said:
    The Victron app will see any devices within range. That does not mean that the app actually connected to those devices.

    What is your battery setup? Capacity? You said you had “electrical hookup en route? What does that mean?  
    the batteries are lithium standard with the NUCAMP TAB 320S.   We had a night in Vermont on the way there and one in New York with full electric hookup so when we departed these campgrounds we were at 100 percent charged.

    Unless you were running everything in the camper a 100ah LiFePo4 battery should have lasted longer than a couple of days. If you did indeed run down the battery, then as mentioned by others your Victron would not appear on your device.

    You will need to monitor your usage to determine what percentage of battery you are utilizing per day. If you are in a sunny site then your solar should help.
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  • Marceline
    Marceline Member Posts: 1,747
    edited October 2024
    rfuss928 said:
    I like to have a voltage display constantly available.  I used a "cigarette lighter" voltmeter like this for a while.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TM8VWX8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    You may find a much more versatile multimeter useful for many other troubleshooting tasks.

    According to the first post in the thread, it seems like he has a SmartShunt, so there's really no need for any other device to measure SOC. We have seen a few cases where the SmartShunt wasn't initially set up correctly, and thus produced incorrect readings, but the OP isn't providing any info from the Victron Connect app, so it's hard to advise.
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