360 CS Battery location

Hi,

We saw a 360CS today at the Philly RV show.  It was the a Boondock version (not full lithium package).  Just want to pass onto others the location of the battery which is located in the bottom drawer below the counter.  Have to give it some thought of how to add a second battery and/or inverter which we have in our 320.  An inverter could fit in the lower drawer the right.  A second battery not so sure yet.  We are moving forward with our purchase, but will have to figure this out.  We like the convienance having an inverter to use  microwave, hot water pot  or other  AC electrical devices for a few minutes when there is no power.  

The 360 S has the battery below the passenger side bed at the rear.  


2021 TAB 320 BD
2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Southern Maryland

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  • pthomas745pthomas745 Moderator Posts: 4,070
    That positive battery post is a bit crowded?
    2017 Outback
    Towed by 2014 Touareg TDi
  • Yoshi_TABYoshi_TAB Member Posts: 462
    That positive battery post is a bit crowded?
    Agree, a change to a busbar is in order.
    2021 TAB 320 BD
    2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
    Southern Maryland
  • EasternJLEasternJL Member Posts: 73
    Wow, that's kind of ridiculous.  And there's another fairly large drawer you can't use.  In that whole camper, that's the only place you could find to put a battery?  A kitchen drawer?  Perhaps someone can find out where the batteries go if you get the lithium package.  
  • Yoshi_TABYoshi_TAB Member Posts: 462
    edited March 1
    EasternJL said:
    Wow, that's kind of ridiculous.  And there's another fairly large drawer you can't use.  In that whole camper, that's the only place you could find to put a battery?  A kitchen drawer?  Perhaps someone can find out where the batteries go if you get the lithium package.  
    Sort of agree.  I believe the NuCamp Rep. at the show said the lithium pacakge goes under the trailer.  But I need others to substantiate, if I heard that correctly.  

    I'm guessing there is not room under the rear bench for a battery, like in the 360S, because of the space the outdoor kitchen takes in the rear.  The Truma Saphire is in the back below the bench.
    2021 TAB 320 BD
    2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
    Southern Maryland
  • EasternJLEasternJL Member Posts: 73
    Yep.  I put that poll up about whether Nucamp should add a sink to the inside counter (CS), but seeing stuff like this gives me a lot of pause when thinking about this camper at all.  That battery placement isn't something you'd expect on a trailer in this price range.  And if the lithium package moves all this equipment under the trailer, that sounds like it might be worse.  
  • BillJ70BillJ70 Member Posts: 34
    I was kind of surprised to see the battery located outside in the front container on the 320 Lite, but I think I'd take that over this.  As you guys said-- where on earth are you going to put a second battery and the lithium package equipment?  And if you put it outside, how are you going to keep it warm (black canyon).  
  • pthomas745pthomas745 Moderator Posts: 4,070
    I've heard of one other prospective owner asking if the  360 had the "battery under the trailer" and I'm having trouble picturing where that could possibly be.
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    Towed by 2014 Touareg TDi
  • SLJSLJ Member Posts: 587
    Not a well thought out location.
    2021 T@B 320 S Boondock
    2025 KZ Sportsmen 130RD
    2023 Ford Maverick XLT
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  • Yoshi_TABYoshi_TAB Member Posts: 462
    Hi,

    A quick update.  I contacted Nucamp of where extra batteries could be located inside a 360CS.  They pointed me to a storage location under the driver side bed.  Another CS owner (who has taken delivery) also told me of this empty storage area that matches what is  found in the  360S (shown in picture).  Not sure why they selected  the drawer, other than maybe with all the available storage in a 360,  the drawer was selected over the larger compartment under the bed.  Anyways, it's good know there is plenty of space for a second battery and an inverter for a 360CS .


    2021 TAB 320 BD
    2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
    Southern Maryland
  • BillJ70BillJ70 Member Posts: 34
    edited March 3
    @Yoshi_TAB Well, that's crazy.  I can't imagine the logic here-- other than just wanting to preserve some nice under seat/bed storage.  Did you happen to ask them where the batteries and inverter, etc.- go if you get the lithium package?  And why not just have a standard location for all the battery equipment.  

    And if I remember correctly, I believe the battery is under the passenger side rear seat area on the regular 360.   Does anyone have a picture of that compartment on the regular 360?  I know @Gomers2 posted some pics of that area when he was repairing the seat, but not one of the battery compartment.

    Perhaps when you get your 360 CS and have time you could provide some additional photos of where all the equipment lives.  
  • Yoshi_TABYoshi_TAB Member Posts: 462
    edited March 3
    BillJ70 said:
     regular 360.   Does anyone have a picture of that compartment on the regular 360?  
    Below is a 360S battery compartment.

    The battery location change probably has to do with the design required in the rear  for the outdoor kitchen.

    I can see perserving the larger space  on the side if needed by the user.  

    The CS model is 16" longer over all.  Everything inside is the same.  

    Someone who just took delivery of a CS is suppose to send me pictures.

    It's fine with us...we go out for months at a time don't even use all our indoor space in  our 320.  I'm just happy there is room and it will be  easy  to add  two batteries and in my case an inverter.  Was not interested in the lithium package as I can easily put in  almost the same capacity for more than 1/2 the price.


    2021 TAB 320 BD
    2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
    Southern Maryland
  • BillJ70BillJ70 Member Posts: 34
    Thanks, @Yoshi_TAB!  Yeah- I had the lithium on the 320 and my plan would be to just add my own additional battery and inverter, if I get the 360 (as you said, much less expensive).  It seems to me that on either model (360 or 360 CS), when you add the additional battery and inverter, you'd want to move them all to the same location (to that storage location under the bed).  But maybe not?  Please share your setup when it happens--- photos and equipment, etc.  BTW, you are going with 3 batteries?
  • EasternJLEasternJL Member Posts: 73
    I asked Nucamp about where things go if you get the Lithium package.  Sounds like instead of getting extra batteries, you just get a bigger, single battery (270ah)....which is installed UNDER the camper... 

    From Nucamp:
    "The Victron MultiPlus inverter/charger is installed on the inside of the under the bench seating. The 270amp Battle Born lithium battery is installed on the underbelly on the outside of the unit close to the axle, you would have to remove a panel to access"
  • pthomas745pthomas745 Moderator Posts: 4,070
    @EasternJL thank you for that wonderful nugget of info. 
    That makes the "battery in the kitchen drawer" idea look almost "good".
    2017 Outback
    Towed by 2014 Touareg TDi
  • valkraidervalkraider Member Posts: 13
    We are taking delivery of our 360CS this week, but I am actually not annoyed by the drawer location.

    To each their own I guess. I may want to switch out the latch though, so it's not the same as the other drawers - and I agree the positive terminal looks kinda over-used.

    That location is not really a "kitchen" in the CS the same way it is in the standard. It is more of a storage area.

    I only think it is weird that it is set up and presented as a normal drawer - so clearly just reusing the cabinetry from the standard in this regard I think. 
  • EasternJLEasternJL Member Posts: 73
    edited March 18
    @valkraider Would love to hear some feedback once you spend some time with it and make your modifications.  I think the idea here was to preserve the storage under the driver's side bed-- so Nucamp chose to put it in that drawer space instead.  That keeps that under seat/bed space as one big compartment without half of it being taken up with a battery.  That's understandable, but I think I'd still prefer to have it under the bed and keep that drawer as a drawer.  And, by putting it under the bed area, you would have a much easier time (wiring wise) adding on an additional battery and possibly an inverter.  But as you said-- to each his own and with that front are just being storage anyway-- why not store a battery there!  (at least it's not under the camper....) 

  • valkraidervalkraider Member Posts: 13
    I gotta get the thing, and then take off all the covers under the beds to see how stuff is set up - and see how it differs from above pictures.

    I am first installing my surge protector for shore power, and then I will figure out more future plans.

    Biggest thing I immediately want to prevent with the drawer is people always opening it to see what is in there - like I don't want those wires and connectors moving more than they need to.  :)

    So until I get it done, there will be blue tape over that latch with a "do not open" label.  :)
  • EasternJLEasternJL Member Posts: 73
    So, looking at my dealer's website-- it appears that Nucamp has updated the battery situation on the 360 CS (non-lithium package version).  They've moved from a drawer - and made it a fold down door.  And it has the other components on a slide out on the side there.  Certainly looks more intentional than the drawer did. 

     
  • Yoshi_TABYoshi_TAB Member Posts: 462
    Tks…does look better.  We saw the drawer install at the Philly RV show about a month ago.  Our CS is due in late April/early May…we’ll see.  Either way, I’ll be moving it to the open cubby below the driver side bed along with an inverter install.
    2021 TAB 320 BD
    2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
    Southern Maryland
  • valkraidervalkraider Member Posts: 13
    Well that setup looks significantly better.
  • EasternJLEasternJL Member Posts: 73
    edited March 20
    Yeah-- and the drawer slide for the components on the left there is pretty clever. And because there's a drawer above that compartment, you should be able to easily access the top of the battery. 

    @Yoshi_TAB, are you planning to move all batteries and related components to that compartment (under driver's side bed)?  And are you adding a battery?  Really, with the large fridge inside and the one out back, I think 100ah is underpowered.
  • Yoshi_TABYoshi_TAB Member Posts: 462
    @EasternJL,

    Yes, that’s my plan.  But until I get the CS and see what access to wiring is available, don’t  know for sure. Need decent access from the WFCO and 30 amp outlet romex cable.  I have  an automatic transfer switch in my 320 and really like the convenience.   May just go with a multi plus depending on space , access to wiring, etc.
    2021 TAB 320 BD
    2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
    Southern Maryland
  • valkraidervalkraider Member Posts: 13
    Well, the factory sent my dealer a retrofit kit and the dealer had swapped it out before we even took delivery. A week ago the original config was in the trailer when we looked at it, and today upon delivery it’s got the new orientation.
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