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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    Resurrecting this thread, need some ideas. We had a big wind storm yesterday and lost power. It was out 3 days last time so I decided to go out and fire up the T@B fridge in case we needed to move some stuff out there. Tried several times, green light never came on. It was windy and cold and getting dark so I gave up.

    Power is back but I still want this to work. Today I tried some of the voodoo, ran the stove for a while, ran the Alde on propane for a bit. The green light is coming on but not staying on after I release the button. After several attempts, the green light comes on within a couple seconds. I've held the button in for varying amounts of time from the recommended 15 seconds to nearly a minute. I even prechilled the fridge on 120v and then tried to light it because someone said that worked once. The green light always goes off as soon as I release the red button.

    The fridge has always worked PERFECTLY on 120v and 12v, and we did use it on propane for a weekend last summer. Any ideas to try next? Sacrifice a chicken under the full moon? I have the troubleshooting chart but really don't want to tear the kitchen apart, it goes to winter storage in less than 2 weeks.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    DalehelmanDalehelman Member Posts: 2,410
    If after holding the red button in for at least one minute and the green light is on and then goes out . It is most likely the    Thermocoupler  is  malfunctioning. The part is not expensive but is does require the removal of the fridge because the burner is clear in the back. Unless you have the new version where's the burner is on the right side.
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    Should I be able to see the flame if I remove the front panel? 

    What exactly does the green light represent?

    I do have the old 3163 everyone loves to hate.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    Tabaz Tabaz Member Posts: 2,357
    One thing I always do is very SLOWLY release the red button while watching the green light.  Seems to really help.
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    Tabaz said:
    One thing I always do is very SLOWLY release the red button while watching the green light.  Seems to really help.
    Yep, did that, as soon as the button reaches a certain point, poof the light goes out and the ticking pattern starts again.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    DalehelmanDalehelman Member Posts: 2,410
    You can't actually see the flame. The green light is a type of fiber optics that transmits the light of the actual flame to the control panel. The thermal coupler tells the gas valve that the  pilot light has lit. If the coupler  malfunctions once you  release the red button the pilot god out.
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    Tabaz Tabaz Member Posts: 2,357
    I recall a thread that dealt with the thermocouple "coming loose."  Seemed like an easy fix to correct.  Perhaps ChanW had the solution?
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    Tabaz Tabaz Member Posts: 2,357
    Seems like it was the thermocouple fitting at the top of the fridge (have to remove the stove to get at).
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    Tabaz Tabaz Member Posts: 2,357

    Yellow arrow in the photo is the thermocouple fitting that sometimes comes loose.

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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    Excellent, thanks. Will take a look under the stove when it warms up a bit. Had frost last night!
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    DalehelmanDalehelman Member Posts: 2,410
    Tabaz said:

    Yellow arrow in the photo is the thermocouple fitting that sometimes comes loose.

    I hope you a right. Tightening that would be an easy fix. My guess is it's the other end of the copper tubing that is the problem. Generally replacement of the whole coupler is needed.
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    Tabaz Tabaz Member Posts: 2,357
    I agree Dale.  It's worth a shot.  About a year ago, several owners had this problem.
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    VernaVerna Member Posts: 6,878
    Many pages to read in this thread, but browse through it @Photomom.  He does have yet another thread with other Norcold problems.  http://tab-rv.vanillaforums.com/discussion/3860/fridge-wont-light-for-nothin/p1
    Verna, Columbus, IN
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    We've used the fridge on propane for 3 days total, I can't imagine that the thermocoupler has gone bad. I can see that it might have loosened up; there have been several times we've driven on roads so bumpy the interior of the cab was in severe disarray when we arrived. In any case, I'll report what I find.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    DurangoTaBDurangoTaB Member Posts: 754
    We’ve had very similar symptoms...when there is even a light wind.  No wind...no problem.  I’ve thought about changing those (2) vents on the front to something that’s blocked on 3 sides but open on the bottom...

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    DalehelmanDalehelman Member Posts: 2,410
    DurangoTaB said:
    We’ve had very similar symptoms...when there is even a light wind.  No wind...no problem.  I’ve thought about changing those (2) vents on the front to something that’s blocked on 3 sides but open on the bottom...
    Those vents on the front are exhaust vents for  carbon monoxide. Be very careful when considering any modifications to them. 
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    ericnlizericnliz Member Posts: 4,437
    @Photomom, I had trouble getting ours lit when it was brand new (used only once, or twice). When I took the stove top off, to inspect the propane hoses (during the hose recall), I made a point of checking everything while I had the stove top off. My thermocoupler fitting was about a quarter to half a turn loose, so as @Tabaz stated, good place to start. Just don't overtighten, the fitting should be "snug". I'm hoping it's a quick & easy fix for you & please let us know what you find. Thanks.
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    DurangoTaB said:
    We’ve had very similar symptoms...when there is even a light wind.  No wind...no problem.  I’ve thought about changing those (2) vents on the front to something that’s blocked on 3 sides but open on the bottom...
    It was VERY windy Sunday evening (that's why we lost power) but not on Monday afternoon. I'd be concerned about modifying those for safety reasons.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    SeadusterSeaduster Member Posts: 147
    edited October 2017
    Note to self ;););)  Remember that when you start a new discussion on this board and forget to turn off "notifications" on your cell phone at night, you will get 16+ BEEPS when forum members respond to your discussion... starting at 5:47am.  Good thing I'm retired and can take a nap later on.

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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    Took a brief hiatus while we snuck in a couple of end of season camping trips. Finally got back to this issue today - unfortunately I found the thermocouple fitting under the stovetop to be nice and tight. RATS! And everything I could see looked okay visually. Thanks for the ideas.

    T@B goes to winter storage this Saturday and will have to get back to this in April. Will need to run the fridge on propane for an Adirondack trip in June!
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    dsatworkdsatwork Member Posts: 744
    It always makes me sad to hear that Tabs are going into storage.
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    dsatwork said:
    It always makes me sad to hear that Tabs are going into storage.
    I’m not inclined to get out there and remove the snow from the T@B roof every time we get a foot or two. 
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    dsatworkdsatwork Member Posts: 744
    Photomom said:
    dsatwork said:
    It always makes me sad to hear that Tabs are going into storage.
    I’m not inclined to get out there and remove the snow from the T@B roof every time we get a foot or two. 
    Oh no...I get it...just means they are getting out till Spring.  The part of living Southern California I love...camping year round.  B)
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    ChanWChanW Member Posts: 3,158
    @Photomom, you might also want to check the exhaust vent of the norcold. Mud dauber wasps are notorious...
    Symptoms would be the same.
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    ChanW said:
    @Photomom, you might also want to check the exhaust vent of the norcold. Mud dauber wasps are notorious...
    Symptoms would be the same.
    I went out and inspected the outside of those vents and didn't see any evidence. Will remove them and check in spring.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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