battle born battery

smiley · March 28

has anyone had issues with battle born lithium batterys

AnOldUR · March 28

Will Prowse?

Okpete · March 29

I have had no problems with BB battery’s for five years. Nor have I read about any failures on the internet. Will prowse is not certified testing lab and does not have a degree in Electrical engineering. Take all of dire warnings with a grain of salt. However, there are cheaper alternatives .

qhumberd · March 29

Well, reports on the internet are there, outside of Mr Prowse. This one speaks to how they respond to what seems to be a reasonable warranty claim

https://youtu.be/E3aySTut7Vs?si=FGksPHm5QPDLNbM9

pthomas745 · March 29

If you have watched "all" of the series of videos, Prowse has shown the failures and the reasons for the failures. Lots of owners in the Prowse DIY Forums have also reported on failures of the Battleborns...all for the same basic reason This issue, apparently, has been bubbling up in the DIY Forums for about the past year, so it isn't something that Prowse created by himself for "clicks".

The question for us, as basic trailer owners of small systems: how much does this really apply to a travel trailer with a basic setup that is not charging and discharging at the rates being discussed in the testing videos? This is the hard part. Does it make a difference in the chance of failure with an owner with a single Battleborn who rarely pushes the battery capacity to a low level, does not use an inverter or a large lithium charger?

Would having one of the 4 lithium 400 amp hour packages with the 3000 watt Multiplus inverter, where an owner might run the AC on battery for a couple of hours and then plug into shore power and ask for a large charging current make a difference in the chance of failure?

And: even if the Battleborns do start to show failures across the RV world, will the RV manufacturers (many of who have sales agreements with Battleborn) admit there is an issue and warn owners of what to look for? The answer is...no...since consumer protections for RV owners are not the same as protections/recalls for automobile owners. NuCamp owners will get the same response to Battleborn failures as we have gotten for the failures we have seen on the Alde corrosion issue. Which is practically zero. The next step for Battleborn is bankruptcy, fi you follow their stock price, etc.

If I had a Battleborn battery setup, I would have a look at the various videos and take a good close look at the positive battery terminal and look for the color of the red ring around the terminal, looking for the possibility of overheating of that terminal.

There have also been several posts about owners reporting the entire trailer power has completely failed. After being walked through all the various reasons for the power in the trailer to be completely shut down and finding them all satisfactory...a few hours later the owner reported the trailer power "just came back on". This is impossible to verify in any case, since there are so many variables. Did the Battleborn simply "cut itself off" as a "safety measure?"

Grumpy_G · March 29

The certified testing labs and people with degrees should have ensured that the discussed problems don't happen in the first place. As I understand the batteries are "UL certified" and not "UL listed" which is the more stringent evaluation.

I agree with @pthomas745 that the problem appears to show mostly in high current applications, typically using an inverter. For people that enjoy the 12V lifestyle the risk of the terminal heating up is low.

jimcenname · March 29

After I watched the videos I tested mine BB100ah battery (purchased in 2023) with an infrared thermometer on the positive terminal during a charging cycle while the charger was at its maximum output of 45 amps. The terminal heated up into the 90s but nothing more than other components in that area. I'm okay for now.

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