Sun Tracker App

Anyone using an app to help you position your TaB/solar panels for best solar gain?  Just saw a YouTube video where they used the Lumos App.
Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio

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  • CrabTab
    CrabTab Member Posts: 457
    The App looks interesting @Sharon_is_SAM. Our only problem would be that we don't usually have a cell connection when we have our briefcase set up. 

    The general rule I learned for angle of the panel was subtract 15 degrees from your latitude in the summer and add 15 degrees in the winter. As far as daily tracking, we've just 'eyeballed' it. Although I bet we could come up with something cool using a stick in the ground like a sundial. B)

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  • Tabaz
    Tabaz Member Posts: 2,420
    I love the Sun Surveyor app.  Shows exactly where to position the T@B to avoid the sun in the summer or maximize the roof solar panels.
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  • ScottG
    ScottG Administrator Posts: 5,674
    Haven't tried an app but it seems like a good idea. I usually just lay on my back next to the panel and scan the sky for a blinding bright spot. However, that approach is damaging my retinas and making my clothes dirty...  ;-)
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  • DougH
    DougH Member Posts: 1,110
    edited December 2020
    @Tabaz   I had been using an Android app called "Sun Position" to make sure I don't park facing South in a position where a tree will block the panels. The app has several handy screens like the typical AR compass calibrated screen using your camera along with widgets.  But your recommended "Sun Surveyor" looks even better. Thanks for the recommendation.



    (For cheapskates: "Sun Position" does offer more stuff for free on the demo / non paid version though and has widgets... they are both $7.99 to upgrade to full version.)
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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 10,035
    @CrabTab - forgot about cell service.  So, maybe this would help:



    Here is a good article that mentions the 15% rule.  https://www.solarreviews.com/blog/best-solar-panel-angle


    Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
  • Verna
    Verna Member Posts: 6,876
    @Sharon_is_SAM, a different name brand of that tool (Wixey) is a marvelous invention for my table saw and scroll saws, and would indeed work wonders for the 15% rule. 
    Verna, Columbus, IN
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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 10,035
    @Verna - sure beats eye balling it.  And if someone likes gadgets- this one is compact and cheap!  
    Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
  • Verna
    Verna Member Posts: 6,876
    @Sharon_is_SAM, just keep a supply of CR2032 batteries if you don’t turn off the “gadget”, as they do eat batteries. I finally resorted to reversing the battery when done with the task at hand to conserve battery life. 
    Verna, Columbus, IN
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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 10,035
    Maybe a low tech protractor is a better choice😁
    Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
  • CrabTab
    CrabTab Member Posts: 457
    edited December 2020
    @Sharon_is_SAM this is the tool I use to set the panel angle (no batteries required).

    I mentioned eyeballing in relation to pointing the panel towards the current position of the sun during its daily trajectory.  That is where I think a sundial arrangement with a stick would be helpful. Place the panel perpendicular to the cast shadow from the stick. What do you think?



    To make a simple version attach a weighted string to a protractor. Something similar to this.



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  • CrabTab
    CrabTab Member Posts: 457
    @Verna- The magnetic protractor I mentioned in my previous post was bought decades ago to check blade angles on my saws...

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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 10,035
    I’m going to need a tutorial!  Geometry was a LONG time ago😂
    Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
  • CrabTab
    CrabTab Member Posts: 457
    Imagine the panel edge is the red straw along the protractor from the photo above. Subtract the measurement next to the string from 90 degrees. That is the panel angle.

    ....and yes, we are both retired teachers!

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  • Verna
    Verna Member Posts: 6,876
    @CrabTab, two of mine are over 20 years old, one a couple of months old.....

    Geometry was my weakest subject, other math classes were great.  But don’t ask me now......that was literally many decades ago!
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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 10,035
    @CrabTab - about 35 degrees?
    Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
  • CrabTab
    CrabTab Member Posts: 457
    @Sharon_is_SAM, yes approx. 35 degrees (33 for any overachiever out there). 

    BTW- We just watched a YouTube video where I think you saw the Lumps App.😊

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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 10,035
    edited December 2020
    Yes, no doubt the same video from Elsa Rhea😁
    Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
  • 4ncar
    4ncar Member Posts: 1,072
    edited December 2020
    I use a painfully low tech approach. I will try to post a pic later, but in the meanwhile:

    i use use a small piece of white paper, and hold a “round” object, like the lid from a can of spray paint, on top of the white paper(contrast against the black solar panel), placed on top of the solar panel. A shadow will be cast of the “lid”. Move the panel side to side, or up o& down to “zero” the shadow right on top of the lid. Poof! Perfect alignment. 

    Obviously, easier to move a suitcase panel then the tab itself, but one could improvise.
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  • DougH
    DougH Member Posts: 1,110
    edited December 2020
    And don't forget to connect one of these up to get 20-50% more out of your portable panel(s). Just build a cheap aluminum frame with a couple pins so the thing can rotate on an axis. Strong enough to rotate two if you link them and they're reasonably balanced.

    Keeps panels pointing within one degree of the sun for $120.

    https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOQTnGd

    (or a cheap telescope drive motor that can be set to the sun's speed will work)
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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 10,035
    This is more my speed.  https://youtu.be/7XzWYq2Yo9Y

    Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio