Single Black & Gray Water Drain Setup

ericnliz

@foxden, You might want to send @Dalehelman a personal message. There is a post describing pretty well how this is done. Have you tried the "search"?

foxden

I did message @Dalehelman a day or two ago but my guess is he is traveling or just busy so I thought I would send the question out and see if anyone else might have the answer.  Truth is, I am not the most patient person when I get excited about doing something.  It can easily wait or I can just eyeball the measurement.  I have looked at posts on the subject and found them very helpful (particularly the photos) but couldn't find anything on cutting the pipe length.  I just need to relax!

ericnliz

@foxden, Yeah, I'm kinda like you. That patience virtue escapes me at times too! I talked to Dale a couple of days ago, not sure what he's up to at this point. He's usually really good about getting back to folks. Let us know if/when he gets back to you, and share the info he gives you. Sounds like it would be helpful for other folks as well. I know others have done this mod as well, and maybe one of them can chime in to help you out.

dsatwork

foxden said:

I did message @Dalehelman a day or two ago but my guess is he is traveling or just busy so I thought I would send the question out and see if anyone else might have the answer.  Truth is, I am not the most patient person when I get excited about doing something.  It can easily wait or I can just eyeball the measurement.  I have looked at posts on the subject and found them very helpful (particularly the photos) but couldn't find anything on cutting the pipe length.  I just need to relax!

I don't think @Dalehelman will be able to give you a measurement to cut by and that was the one thing that I looked at and measured and double checked several times. I would be happy to give you my measurement but it only worked for me and I did my mod slightly different than some others did. 

Basically I put together all of the Black water parts and positioned them the way I wanted them. I was trying to have the proper amount of slope without going too low.


Once I had that positioned, I laid the 90 degree rubber connect against the the pipes and marked my cuts.


It looks a little funky but it works great and don't know how I lived without it.

foxden

Thanks @dsatwork .  This looks much like mine so far.  Patience is a virtue @ericnliz but......I am just going for it!

dsatwork

Another trick I used, once I had all the parts in place, I put masking tape on the top of the joints and used a magic marker to to draw a straight line to use for alignment. Then use a razor knife to cut them apart. When you go to glue your joints, all you have to do is line up your marks and your good to go.

ericnliz

@dsatwork, BIG thanks for chiming in!!! If I remember correctly, that's how Dale cut mine as well because he had the parts all put together when I got there, same for @Homebodyatheart's. We did them the same day, and just turned it into a T@B party! Great idea on the masking tape by the way!!

Michigan_Mike

Good stuff and appreciate you sharing your project and details!  I plan to do this too and agree, these types of projects do require planning, contemplating each step, measurements, etc. prior to undertaking them as there is no turning back once you make a specific cut.  Obviously there will always be some means of correcting an issue, but for these projects to come out clean and as planned you must take some time and effort to attain the best possible outcome.  

My confidence level is inching up after seeing all you brave souls!  

Congratulations and well done!  

Dalehelman

@foxden  I did reply to your PM here is a copy
You have everything correct. I cut my 1 1/2 pipe about 5 or 6 inches behind the gate valve. Assembled everything but the rubber elbow. Then trim the pipe for the best fit for the elbow. Trim a little at a time you want a good close fit. It will not be a perfect fit that's why it's a rubber elbow. If you were to cut something to short it can be easily extended with a coupling and longer pipe. Any small hand saw will work on the pipe. I prefer one with a fine tooth blade and a hand gun style handle. Available at any hardware store. Let me know if you have any more questions. Feel free to call me. 
509-220-4022 pacific time

Dale Helman

ericnliz

Thanks Dale, I knew you'd chime in!!!

foxden

Thank you thank you @Dalehelman (and all who went before me).  This is the dry fit.  Let me know how it looks.  The lowest point is only about 7 1/2 inches above the ground.  Is that ok?  Again, thanks for all of your help. 

ericnliz

@foxden, Might check a couple of things before you button it up. Check the stabilizer clearance, and check the gray water handle in that position for clearance. I know Dale had to do mine sideways for clearance reasons.

foxden

The gray water valve works fine at that position.  Thanks for the heads up on the stabilizer.  I didn't think of that.  Will go check.

ericnliz

Just rather see 'ya have to do it only once!

foxden

Project completed!  Thanks for all of the help and advice. Everything is glued and tested.  No leaks except around the flexible pipe.  I haven't tightened the clamps on those yet.  The flexible pipe still feels a little off and I think it is slowing down the flow of water.  But I will work on it tomorrow and see if I can get it to fit a little better.  It fit a little better in the dry fit than in the final.  Who knows why.

dsatwork

@foxden looks like you were able to source the correct parts too.....nice job.

Michigan_Mike

This a shot I took at the factory rally tour back in July and gives you an idea as to how they are incorporating a single point gray/black water drain set-up into the new trailers.  

ericnliz

Ha, It's a carbon copy of the "@Dalehelman Special" I received!!!!!

Michigan_Mike

ericnliz said:

Ha, It's a carbon copy of the "@Dalehelman Special" I received!!!!!

And it gives me an idea that the assembly above could be adapted to the current system.  I'm going to give it a shot.  

Dalehelman

Michigan_Mike said:

This a shot I took at the factory rally tour back in July and gives you an idea as to how they are incorporating a single point gray/black water drain set-up into the new trailers.  

I am a little  prejudice but which looks better.

ericnliz

  Mine too!! Have to agree, and thanks again!!!!!! 

Michigan_Mike

Can't argue with you guys as Dale's is in tighter to the frame as opposed to sticking out away from the frame.  You'd think that they could have cut some more of the gray pipe off and brought the valves in closer.  I lost an assembly out in New Mexico last spring so I'm very sensitive to clearances now.  Pretty hard to beat custom mods!    

Verna

@Michigan_Mike, was that a picture of the pipes for the Outback model? It doesn't look as neat and tucked back in as the ones I have seen on the completed T@B 320's. 

Michigan_Mike

Verna said:

@Michigan_Mike, was that a picture of the pipes for the Outback model? It doesn't look as neat and tucked back in as the ones I have seen on the completed T@B 320's. 

I think so...  The tub wasn't mounted either so it may appear different as a result too.  

dsatwork

Dalehelman said:

Michigan_Mike said:

This a shot I took at the factory rally tour back in July and gives you an idea as to how they are incorporating a single point gray/black water drain set-up into the new trailers.  

I am a little  prejudice but which looks better.

Anyone with a platform or big box like mine, will appreciate the extra distance to get it outside the box. I would have seriously considered using this if someone with a 2017 would have had tested it out and proved it could work. I have got to say, I don't miss having to move from the stinky black tank to the grey tank. Connect it once..... pull the black..... then pull grey and your done. Put away the flushed out hose. Yay.

Dalehelman

Most of the time I just leave this clear section on. So when I dump I can tell when tank is clean 

4ncar

Does anyone know if nucamp is producing this in production yet...2018s?

Roamey

4ncar 

Does anyone know if nucamp is producing this in production yet...2018s?

Michigan_Mike 

This a shot I took at the factory rally tour back in July and gives you an idea as to how they are incorporating a single point gray/black water drain set-up into the new trailers.

4ncar

So a mid year mod for nucamp?  I am going to the dealership this weekend with the SO now that she's back...

Rolltide82

Will this work on the outback model before I go to ordering parts?