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Puttin the Screws To It

NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
Noticed a couple of screws under a side window were about to fall out - the ones that hold the trim on but are hidden when the window is closed. Tightened those and decided to check all the others (there's a lot of screws on these little buggers). Found 65% needed a little tightening - ranged from an eighth of a turn to several full turns. The fender screws were all loose. The corner handle screws were the tightest.
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    DurangoTaBDurangoTaB Member Posts: 754
    Thanks for sharing...something many of us take for granted!

    J.D. & Sue

    Durango, CO    2014/15 S M@xx :  "Dory's HabiT@B"  Keep on swimming...

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    RadRad Member Posts: 516
    When I got mine home after purchase I went through and tightened all the square head screws I could find inside and out. I was very careful not to over tighten. Even with that consideration I was amazed how many were loose.  

    It it could be a bit OCD on my part but I also took my small file set and knocked off all the nasty sharp corners and edges on the door hinges.  It drives me nuts to have such poorly finished aluminum fittings.  It may be just a result of growing up in a small prototype machine shop where my first job in my dad's shop was to de burr the parts the guys made out of high grade aluminum, titanium and magnesium.  I still love the feel of of a well polished high grade metal fitting. It is one reason I went for the T@B, most of its components are of a higher quality than other rigs in its size range. 
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    NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
    Good warning Rad - Make sure you don't over tighten can't be emphasized enough.
    General fit and finish is what sold me on the T@B - Lotta shabby RVs out there.
    I haven't gotten out a file yet - trying to constrain myself.
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    tabascotabasco Member Posts: 23
    I know tabasco is now 10 years old and some things shake loose over time, but it never ceases to amaze me. In a lot of cases the various screws and fasteners were missing or loose and in some places had never ever been fitted! I have said many times to people admiring tabasco that Dutchman took a variety of good quality parts and components and slapped them together in the most inept manner with zero quality control!  Enough grumbling already, I love fact that its basically a sound concept and just needs a little TLC. My main reason for commenting is that for most of the external trim I have taken all the plated screws out and replaced them with stainless  steel sheet metal screws with a dab of caulking on each. Check the chassis to floor bolts too, I had a few nuts and spring washers missing. So many of the plated screws were rusty inside where it was unseen.
    Jen and Bern Victoria B.C.                               
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    sabelsabel Member Posts: 283
    Checked all of them on our Outback.  One screw on the door hold open was falling out. Glued it back in the hole. No threads left but hold open looks like it's  glued to the door anyway. I wonder what else is glued. 
    Does anyone  know where to get those square head screws for spares?
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    jkjennjkjenn Member Posts: 6,391
    I noticed that the ones that were loose in mine appeared to have lost their caulk. I will recaulk before my big trio in the fall.

    2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014

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    VernaVerna Member Posts: 6,878
    sabel said:
    Does anyone  know where to get those square head screws for spares?

    Lowe's, Menard's and Home Depot have an assortment of square head screws, in bulk and in packages of 8 to 10.  Take the old one in and compare the threads to make sure you're getting the same type. 

    Ace Hardware, True Value Hardware, and Mom & Pop's Hardware should all have an assortment also.   

    Verna, Columbus, IN
    2021 T@B 320S  Boondock “The T@B”
    Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
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    RadRad Member Posts: 516
    sabel said:
     
    Does anyone  know where to get those square head screws for spares?
    Pull one out and take to a good hardware store to match up size.  If they don't have square drive ones you will at least know the proper size and can order online from any one of the many distributors for fasteners.

    I like the idea of installing SS ones on the outside trim.  I assume the existing ones are not, but I'm not really sure.
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    hatboxhatbox Member Posts: 44
    85 percent plus of our screws needed to be tightened....question:  the little circle lights on back of t@b...are they stick ons?  Mine seem wobbly like sticking stuff is not quite stuck...  any guidance, or recommended fixes would be much appreciated.  Also, what's everyone using in their septic tanks and when are they putting it in?  Is there anything more organic than the Aqua Chem?  The label frightens me.  I sanitized today, in case dealer didn't and can't seem to find exact directions and doses, etc.

    Lisa and Tim

    Cottonwood, Arizona

    2015 Max S Sofitel--"The Hatbox"  TV: 2013 Subaru Outback and 1994 Toyota Land Cruiser aka "the Betty"

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    NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
    Doing spring cleaning/maintenance - 75% of my screws were slightly loose. The loosest were the ones you can't see when the window's closed. So tighten up peoples :-)
    Oh, and don't forget the screws in the keder rail, a few of those were loose.
    And a reminder - just finger tight, don't over tighten and strip one out.
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    Oh, I was wondering if I should do something about that door hinge. I guess I'll be filing and checking screws this weekend.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
    Photomom - I do it a couple times a year - Have never had any fall out in spite of the miles I put on so it's not like your trim will fall off if you don't get on it in a timely fashion.
    All are square slot heads, two different sizes.
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    I have a fantastic little Husky brand interchangeable screwdriver set I picked up at Home Depot - ratcheting handle, 4 Phillips tips, 5 straight tips, 3 square tips, several hex tips, even some star tips. Thus far it has done every T@B task needed.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
    I have a similar one - Works great.
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    RZRBUGRZRBUG Member Posts: 890
    I can still attest to the fact that there are 112 screws on the outside of my 2012 Q, not counting those in the keder rail or ones hidden by trim.  I've never gotten ambitious enough to count the ones inside.  Not sure I could count that high.  Point is there are a LOT of screws, and as PXL says, it is a good idea to check them once in a while.

    Larry & Booger - 2013 T@B, 2012 GMC Sierra

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    irvingjirvingj Member Posts: 335
    "Does anyone  know where to get those square head screws for spares?"

    Personally, I don't much care for square drive screws, but tabasco's comment about replacing screws with stainless versions is an excellent one. On all my equipment/machines, I always do this.

    A good source for stainless screws of a variety of sizes in bulk, if you want to go that route, is Aircraft Spruce & Supply: 
    https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/tha.php  Aviation-grade, truss-head (a bit larger head than typical) screws are not that expensive. I always keep a supply on hand.
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    RatkityRatkity Member Posts: 3,770
    I have what Photomom and PXL has: a multi- screwdriver with rachet mechanism that keeps a myriad of bits inside the handle. It includes several square bits. There are two types of square ones on the T@B. Also, check your chain bolts and nuts (should be grade 8) and since it's dealer install, many people have found the bolts and locking nuts holding the front bin have not been tightened properly.
    2017 820R Retro Toy Hauler from 2015 Tabitha T@B from 2009 Reverse LG Teardrop (but a T@Bluver at heart)
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    TaBFanTaBFan Member Posts: 41
    Rad said:
    sabel said:
     
    Does anyone  know where to get those square head screws for spares?
    Pull one out and take to a good hardware store to match up size.  If they don't have square drive ones you will at least know the proper size and can order online from any one of the many distributors for fasteners.

    I like the idea of installing SS ones on the outside trim.  I assume the existing ones are not, but I'm not really sure.
    Rad, An easy way to tell if a screw (or anything metal) is stainless steel or not, is to stick it on a magnet. If it does NOT stick, then it's stainless.
    2014 Wrangler Sahara & 99 Jeep 4dr Sport TV. Interests are Photography, fishing & rod building, woodworking, hotrods (73VW rat rod "DasStuka") and Camping. 
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    PhotomomPhotomom Member Posts: 2,217
    I just checked the screws on my T@B - only one needed adjustment. You would definitely want to avoid over tightening as that would crack the plastic. This needs to be one of those periodic maintenance items.
    John and Henrietta, Late 2016 T@B S Max in Western New York
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    NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
    Since yours is new, not surprised just one. Takes awhile.
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    ericnlizericnliz Member Posts: 4,437
    PXL,
    Mine was brand new [just brought it home], and I noticed a couple loose, kept checking, and I'll bet I tightened at least 20 inside & out. Of course I have to take into account mine was shipped to Wa. state, so that probably accounted for so many being loose. Just shows, doesn't hurt to check.
    2016 T@B MAX S-aka: WolfT@B
    TV: 2006 Chevy Avalanche LT Z71 aka: WhiteWolf, or 1972 Chevy Custom10 P/U aka: SnarlingWolf
    Spokane, Wa.
    Eric aka: Lone Wolf  


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    NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
    Nope - doesn't take long to check and tighten. I've only ever had one that had worked it's way out to where it took several turns to reseat.
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    LehfeldtLehfeldt Member Posts: 20
    edited September 2016
    I have a few missing from the keder rails. Where can one order more replacement square drive flat head screws?

    I looked for them at ACE and Lowe's but they do not carry them in stock. The ones I found on Amazon.com appear to have heads that are larger than those of the screws in the keder rail, so it appears to be a specially made thinner head type of Robertson screw.
    Human: Christopher Lehfeldt T@B: 2016 Max Q named "atT@Boy" TV: 2019 Honda Ridgeline RTL-E HQ: Rochester, NY
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    fwillisonfwillison Member Posts: 35
    My brand new T@B S Outback had the majority of screws "not tight".  Especially for the plastic cladding/trim pieces and fenders.  Almost all were a couple of full turns from snug.    

    Makes me wonder if this was on purpose?  Maybe snug isn't correct.  The trim pieces are very light, maybe they are just supposed to be loosely "hung" from the fragile composite walls.  Perhaps this prevents the self-tapping screws from "breaking out" of the holes since their only purchase is to the wall panels.

    Hopefully all my snugging up didn't make a problem where one didn't exist...
    Fred and Nicole Willison
    Tulsa, OK
    2017 Tab S Max Outback silver/silver
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    RatkityRatkity Member Posts: 3,770
    @fwillison, careful how snug. The plastic molding flexes while driving and expanded and contracts in varying temps. After a repair on the rear panel, both rear handle moldings cracked at the screws. Unfortunately, the replacement molding didn't quite match the T@B I have as it's a limited edition. I think the silver is a slightly different color.
    2017 820R Retro Toy Hauler from 2015 Tabitha T@B from 2009 Reverse LG Teardrop (but a T@Bluver at heart)
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    RZRBUGRZRBUG Member Posts: 890
    After returning from my last trip, I was covering the Aero Flow vent cover with plastic to keep the wasshoppers out when I noticed one corner could be lifted about half an inch.  The screw holding the metal bracket to the base to which the cover is attached had worked loose.  If you have an occasion to be up there, you might check these as well.

    Larry & Booger - 2013 T@B, 2012 GMC Sierra

    Happy Trails Y'all

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    NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
    Thought I'd bump this as I just checked mine and all on the drivers side needed a twist and half on the passengers side.
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    wizard1880wizard1880 Member Posts: 442
    One thought...If I found a screw that had to be retightened more than once, it may be worth using a dab of LocTite on it to hold it in place.  Anyone try this?
    T@@bulous
    2014 T@B CS Maxx
    TV: 2015 Audi Q7 3.0 V6 TDI (diesel)
    Martha Lake, WA
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    KBaggins1KBaggins1 Member Posts: 135
    Loctite is not compatible with plastic. Best to just put a dab of caulking on the screw.
    2014 T@B M@XS;  2017 Ford Transit Low Roof, Reg. Wheel Base
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    NomadNomad Member Posts: 7,209
    One place I'm betting most won't check is up under the windows, the screws that hold the channel that allows the window to swing open. I had one real loose. You can't get a screw driver handle up in there. I used a pliers to grip the bit.
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