2020 T@B400 AC noise. Can anyone confirm if this is normal or not?

grsiepka
grsiepka Member Posts: 58
in Air Conditioning & Refrigeration
Hi all, can anyone here with a newer T@B (with the new Elwell AIR-8 system under the bed)  listen to this video and tell me if this AC noise is normal or not?

We took delivery 3 days ago, drove home from the dealer 10 miles away and parked it. We are quite sure it didn't sound like this when we did the walkthru at the dealer. 

Noise starts around 15 seconds in. I can deal with the fan noise, specifically referring to the rattle/grinding type noise.  Notice after lifting up the bed panel and tapping the unit it stops for a brief moment. That sounds like something loose to me. 

Just would like to confirm before making a call for service. Love everything else about this thing so far.

https://youtu.be/4W0iXhNLEnk


2020 T@B 400 Boondock Lite - 2018 Toyota Tundra Platinum - Tempe AZ
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  • grsiepka
    grsiepka Member Posts: 58
    Also for what it's worth, The AirForce Guy's video of the new AIR-8 system has the AC running at the beginning. I'm not hearing that same noise there, and actually has really good info about the specs of the unit and how to use the thermostat.

    https://youtu.be/a_jKy1cTSKw

    Probably will just call the dealer but still would be interested in others opinions.
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  • NorthIsUp
    NorthIsUp Member Posts: 197
    Take a peek under the bed. Sounds like something is vibrating, so look for a loose cover or bar or something similar while the Air8 is operating. 
    Jean & Arnie  Nevada
    2019 T@B 400 BL
    2021 Toyota Sequoia 4WD

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  • N7SHG_Ham
    N7SHG_Ham Member Posts: 1,261
    Doesn't sound normal, BUT I haven't heard an Air8, so I guess hope that isn't normal. I agree with @NorthIsUp, look for something loose.
    2019 T@B 400 Boondock Lite
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  • grsiepka
    grsiepka Member Posts: 58
    Just replying to my own thread here. Spent some time looking for what is rattling, the Air8 system is enclosed in basically a thick styrofoam box strapped to the floor. It seems the rattle is coming from the right side of the box where i'm guessing a compressor is? Kinda sounds like coil lines are rattling against each other. I'm not crazy about trying to pull the whole unit out so I booked a service appointment with the dealer. Will update in 2 weeks with what they find. Thanks for the suggestions.
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  • Cbusguy
    Cbusguy Member Posts: 771
    ours sounds like that when the campground voltage started to sag and just before the power monitor disconnected.   Check the voltage I bet it was down around 102
    2009 GMC Canyon,   3.7 liter 
    2020 320s Boondock lite, With Lots of mods
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  • grsiepka
    grsiepka Member Posts: 58
    hmm maybe that's why i didn't hear it at the dealer and only when i was plugged in at home.  I'll try and check that. Thanks for the suggestion.
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  • _JB_
    _JB_ Member Posts: 18
    So - I've heard this before on mine. Sometimes it's more pronounced than at other times. I did the same as you - lifting the bed to see if I could find something loose. Wasn't sure if it was just the sound of the compressor, but has an almost metallic buzz to it. 

    I haven't used the AC enough for a long enough period of time for it to really bother me, but if something is wrong, I'd like to know about it/  Wouldn't bother me if it was a bit quieter too. 

    Following - will be interested to see what others say or what you learn. I'll chime in if I come across anything.  
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  • Sharon_is_SAM
    Sharon_is_SAM Member Posts: 10,061
    @grsiepka - are you using a surge protector/Electrical Management System that detects low voltage?  I have read that A/C units are particularly susceptible to damage due to low voltage.
    Sharon / 2017 T@B CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
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  • grsiepka
    grsiepka Member Posts: 58
    I am not. Hooked up with a dogbone with standard 15amp house plug. Going to do some checking soon.
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  • Cbusguy
    Cbusguy Member Posts: 771
    edited September 2019
    We have found that if you are on a 15 amp circuit you cannot charge your battery, run your refrigerator and the air conditioning at the same time with out causing the voltage to sag.

    Edit...I forgot.....make sure your alde is off or running on propane

    A couple of caveats....we have a 320 and it is probably dependant on the quality of the 15 amp service whether it was simply installed to code or code plus
    2009 GMC Canyon,   3.7 liter 
    2020 320s Boondock lite, With Lots of mods
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  • grsiepka
    grsiepka Member Posts: 58
    edited September 2019
    For what its worth, I had a free spot in my breaker box so picked up all the pieces to install a proper 30amp RV receptacle. Plugged in to that and no real change in the noise. 

    Bonus is that it gave me a chance to test out the Surge protector i bought, found out it didn't actually work. The Progressive industries SSP-30XL one. Green and Blue lights were on that said it was good, but had no power when plugged in thru it. It was a Amazon warehouse deal, back to Amazon it goes. 

    Dealer appt is next Tuesday.


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  • grsiepka
    grsiepka Member Posts: 58
    Following up after my service appointment. Dealer said it was compressor rattle, solved by installing a shim. All good now. In and out in less than an hour. 
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  • TNOutback
    TNOutback Member Posts: 633
    edited September 2019
    For what it’s worth, I measured the sound levels in my 400 with a decibel meter.  Background noise was 37 dB. With the a/c running, it was 81 dB.  That’s somewhere between an alarm clock and city traffic noise.  You can forget listening to music or the TV with the a/c on.
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  • ClemOnTheTrail
    ClemOnTheTrail Member Posts: 7
    TNOutback said:
    For what it’s worth, I measured the sound levels in my 400 with a decibel meter.  Background noise was 37 dB. With the a/c running, it was 81 dB.  That’s somewhere between an alarm clock and city traffic noise.  You can forget listening to music or the TV with the a/c on.
    I have the same issue, I am currently living in my Tab 400 full time and worry about long term ear damage with how loud the compressor and fan are. Might have to sleep with ear protection to mitigate hearing loss during summer months of Eastern NC when it's too hot not to run AC.
    Clem
    2020 T@b 400 Full Time
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  • KimmieGuy
    KimmieGuy Member Posts: 28
    Glad it all got worked out… for what it’s worth, I have a 2020 320 with an Air8.  My life changed for the better when I reprogrammed the unit so that the compressor I think doesn’t continually turn on and off.  I sleep much better.  I’m pretty sure the air force guy had a video on how to do it.  Also, I had a clicking noise, but since I cleaned both the air filters on the side of the unit, that sound has gone away as well.  Anything to help us sleep on that unit.  Happy travels! 😊
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