A moment-arm analysis of the impact of moving the spare wheel and tire two feet forward revealed that this will more than double its contribution to the tongue weight. Something to consider.
I have a skinny donut spare mounted under the tongue box, that utilizes a wind down/up mechanism. I find it to be a very practical modification to our 320, that solves a lot of issues. I have previously posted details for anyone that may be interested...
I think the ground clearance would be the problem. I'd immediately move it, if it came to me that way from the factory. We've already bashed the tongue jack shaft twice on two high driveway entrances.
Chan - near Buffalo NY 2014 S Maxx 2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah!
I think the ground clearance would be the problem. I'd immediately move it, if it came to me that way from the factory. We've already bashed the tongue jack shaft twice on two high driveway entrances.
@marjamr, If the tire lift works like the 400’s, you use the manual tool provided to lower the tire from under the tongue. When done, raise it back. I think the mechanism is on the door side, the passenger side of the tongue.
If you have it, read the caution—do NOT use a drill to raise and lower the tire.
Verna, Columbus, IN 2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B” Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
Verna, thanks. I’ll check that. When I peeked under the tire it looked like a large wing nut was holding the tire on. Similar to the spare tires you see in many car trunks. I checked the tongue box but didn’t see any tire lowering device in there.
@marjamr Look on the right hand side of the frame rail just barely aft of the tub. There will be something looking like a 19mm hex nut with a label saying which way to turn it to lower or raise the tire. BTW, when the tire lands on the ground you still need to lower the winch some more in order to get enough slack in the cable to remove the "wing nut" from the tire. You should have received a small ratchet wrench with your trailer. Use that to raise and lower the tire. OK, having said that last and adhered to the official school-approved solution, let me add that you actually CAN use a battery powered drill to operate the spare tire winch as well as the stabilizers. The caveat being that you USE A SLOW SPEED ON THE DRILL. The idea of the drill is not to do it faster but to avoid (for us decrepit old geezers) all that hand cranking. If you try to use a drill at high speed on the spare tire winch I can almost guarantee you will end up with a snarled cable. And unsnarling it is worse than trying to undo all the knots in a three year old's shoelaces.
Thanks, @falcon1970. It’s hard being a recliner chair pilot at times!😂😂.
I have two choices to get to the T@B and both of them entail a 30% grade either in my yard or 2nd driveway😂. It’s too steep for these knees after dark!
Verna, Columbus, IN 2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B” Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
On my 320S 2021 the spare resides within the tongue "A" and hangs down only a few inches. If this hits anything there will be other issues. I've found lowering the tire to use isn't real hard but getting it lined up to return requires some work. I much prefer this location as it allows other uses for the front deck than putting a (rarely used) tire there. Tongue weight change is valid for moving from the back but should be about the same as mounted on the front carrier. I'm glad I never had to deal with clearance and accessibility issues of the former low back position.
Snohomish WA, 2015 Diesel Grand Cherokee Sm@ll World: 2021 320S Boondock, 6V Pb-acid Shunt, Roof & Remote solar & 30A DC-DC Chargers managed by VE Smart Network
Thanks. Makes sense. I also have a 2021 320S. You say that lowering the tire isn't real hard. I don't understand what the procedure is. An earlier post mentions "a 19mm hex nut with a label saying which way to turn it to lower or raise the tire." Not clear what TAB model is being referenced. There is no such thing on my trailer. What I see lying on my back is in the attached image. There is what looks like a big wing nut in the middle that appears to be holding the tire in place. Am I really supposed to loosen that and risk having the tire fall on me?
Hi, On my 320, the access point to lower the tire is inside the front center tub at the bottom. There is a hole that you place the tool (same one that lowers the stablizers). You place the tool through the hole and crank. The tire will lower. Best wishes...
2021 TAB 320 BD 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee Southern Maryland
I also have a 2021 320 @pmfarrell099 and the access to lower the spare is in the cargo box; it uses the same size nut as the stabilizers, just as @Yoshi_TAB describes. It's near the front wall and just to the passenger side of the propane tank. Here are some photos that may help.
The bolt on the retaining ring for the propane tank should face the opposite way from the above photo for easier access - here's a shot with the bolt in that orientation.
2021 T@B 320 S Boondock / 2022 Telluride - Phillies/Eagles/Flyers Country
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2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah!
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2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B”
Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
Look on the right hand side of the frame rail just barely aft of the tub. There will be something looking like a 19mm hex nut with a label saying which way to turn it to lower or raise the tire. BTW, when the tire lands on the ground you still need to lower the winch some more in order to get enough slack in the cable to remove the "wing nut" from the tire.
You should have received a small ratchet wrench with your trailer. Use that to raise and lower the tire.
OK, having said that last and adhered to the official school-approved solution, let me add that you actually CAN use a battery powered drill to operate the spare tire winch as well as the stabilizers. The caveat being that you USE A SLOW SPEED ON THE DRILL. The idea of the drill is not to do it faster but to avoid (for us decrepit old geezers) all that hand cranking. If you try to use a drill at high speed on the spare tire winch I can almost guarantee you will end up with a snarled cable. And unsnarling it is worse than trying to undo all the knots in a three year old's shoelaces.
2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B”
Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
Sm@ll World: 2021 320S Boondock, 6V Pb-acid
Shunt, Roof & Remote solar & 30A DC-DC Chargers
managed by VE Smart Network
2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Southern Maryland