When will nuCamp announce 2022 changes?

NorCalMike

My understanding is they have been building '22 MY units since early July.  I have even seen some pix of TAG's out there but their web site still shows 2021 models.  I have a 2022 400 on order and they still won't even tell me what changes will be on mine. Cancelled my '21 based on representation of some great changes I was interested in but now those seem to be in flux.   Apparently some changes will be running changes based on availability of parts during the build year.  I don't understand the lack of transparency.  I am paying nearly $2K more for new model year and my dealer tells me he won't know what it has until it arrives.  Does that sound a little crazy to you...?

CJax

@NorCalMike, I'm on the other side of your equation. I have one of the last '21s built. Build date was supposed to be June 28, but I just got it last week. My frame and floor don't match other '21s, so I think I may have gotten those upgrades because they ran out of '21 supply. I also seem to have a newer version of the bathroom fan. All other stuff are clearly '21 vintage.

So I would imagine as they run out of inventory they start into the new stuff. Some late '21s may have a few unexpected upgrades. Some early '22s may be missing a few expected upgrades.

It seems to me that your '22 will have the new frame and floor, as those seem to be already the current stock, which is the biggest deal. Everything else you can upgrade afterwards if necessary. (I know, you've already paid for those, but the floor is the really big deal I think...)

Cheers,
C

McMullap

I hate to say but NuCamp is notorious for making changes. They continuously try to make improvements. Even if it means making a dozen changes in a single year. I understand some people may not like this method, but you can’t argue that they don’t listen to their customers. Always trying to make the best products. 

jkuang

@CJax, what is the frame change in 2022 tab 400?

CJax

@jkuang , there are a lot of posts about these frame holes, where critters can get under your TT and find their ways in. The frames have apparently been made this way for many model years.

 

So I reached out to @manyman297 for the dimensions (the above picture is from one of his posts I believe) whilst I was waiting for delivery. He was gracious enough to provide them, and I prefabbed some nice custom mesh covers to install once I got mine so I could be proactive on the critter front.

Then I got my 2021 T@B 400 Boondock in August (ordered in February)... and to my surprise, when I went to install my critter covers, I don't have these holes in my frame! The beams are solid.

I'm only speculating that I may have gotten a 2022 frame since I had one of the last 2021s made and who knows when their inventory switched. Or due to the supply chain issues, I may have a one-of-a-kind frame. Logic tells me it's the former but I can't rule out the latter -- at least until I see a 2022 somewhere to compare.

Cheers,
C

jkuang

@CJax Interesting. These holes are made to reduce the weight. Holes are cut in areas where the metal does not do much to provide strength to the frame. I think they can just remove the holes on outer surface beams, but keep holes on the inner beams.

manyman297

A new video popped up on YouTube and is a purported 2021 400 but check out the screengrabs I got: 


Appears to have different overhead cubby fascias. I know @rhyno had some issues where the screw holding the fascia to the ceiling is coming out (and mine didn't even have a screw in it). Looks like that won't be an issue now.
(link to post: https://tab-rv.vanillacommunity.com/discussion/comment/173093#Comment_173093)


Isotherm has the stainless steel door instead of the black one...I would've killed to have this option. Could be a parts shortage issue though. I know the stainless version is a bit more money.

Also, it looks like the cushion fabric is different on the dinette but I can't tell.

Link to video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKJDiamSeAE&t=451s

bergger

So I ran down to a dealership to pick up a gallon of Century glycol to top off my system today and they actually had a 2022 400 on the lot.  Looks like it just came in since it was not even on their website. Probably already sold but it was open so I took some time to crawl around it and really look at it.  We have an early production 2021 and I noticed a few changes to the 2022.  Most of them I did not really care for, with the exception of the stuff you can't see like the new subfloor and converter box which are nice. However I also noticed the following:

New lower track for the screen door.  Notice it is now flat with a plastic exposed guide on the outside of the track.  This I did not like.  It allows a more pronounced gap, open to being kicked and broken and I found it very hard to open without using my foot to push on the bottom of the door.  It also has a magnet strip to hold it closed and is no longer concealed in a shroud when closed.  You can see it more when closed.  The magnet is nice but I don't like how it is now more visible when retracted. 


I also noticed they changed the drains for the fresh water tank, and hot and cold low point drains.  They are all now coming out of the frame in the same location.  Not sure this is better or worse than having the hot and cold low point drains in the Nautilus box.  The white tubes coming out of the frame are the actual water lines. 

Other things I noticed were the new kitchen faucet, which I do not like.  While it is higher than the old one it is not height adjustable and it extends very close to the edge of the sink, maybe allowing water to splash out of the sink when washing pots.  I just don't think it is the best faucet for the size of the sink.  I like the old one better. 

The new exhaust fan in the bathroom is nice if you are short but for me, 6'2" it extends too far down and I hit my head on it.  The old style that I have actually creates more head room for me. Also I noticed that the fabric wall covers around the two porthole windows are already loose and coming out in several areas whereas ours is still very tight and clean looking.  Maybe just a fluke or friday afternoon job.  I have to say while our cushions are very comfortable the new ones are definitely firmer.  Too firm for me but probably will ware better over the long run.  But the color is too dark for me.  There are new shaped router cuts for the heat on the kitchen counter, a new air bleed tube under the kitchen sink, double Alde glycol drain and fill lines, locks on the cargo doors, different color floor (I like the old one better) and most surprising was the cargo load was increased from 726 to 946 lbs!  This I assume was either do to a change in the axle or due to the new composite floor weighing less than the old floor.  I'm thinking it is the latter.  And the new Alde double fill and drain lines is probably why the dealer told me NuCamp just sent them a new pump for the glycol.    

Anyway I just wanted to share what I saw today and what my opinions were.  Some of the changes are nice, some not so nice but all up to ones opinion.  It was just fun to crawl around it today.  I also looked at the Cirrus 620 which if I wanted a truck camper is what I would get.  Very compact but very nice.  

Sharon_is_SAM

Just an FYI that I found out today - the 2021 and 2022 320 model fresh water tank drain now comes out the back of the tank.  So, to drain it more completely, raise the tongue.

pthomas745

The low point drain valves came up this morning over on the FB page.  The picture in the comment above shows the Hot/Cold water low point drains, and shows the fresh water tank drain there, too. An owner this morning of a 2022 320 CS-S had only this configuration.  The Fresh Water tank drain was over behind the passenger side wheel.  Question:  What is the gray handle to the right of the Hot/Cold valves?

And the Fresh Water Tank Drain over behind the passenger side wheel.

Edit:  the Gray handle I was asking about is apparently the new gray tank drain valve.

Sharon_is_SAM

@pthomas745 - Good to know.  The 320s with Nautilus fresh tank is still in the same location except the drain comes off the rear of the tank.  Where is the actual gray tank outlet?

Berger’s photo was the 2022 400.  Looks like all the plumbing drains are still on the 400 driver’s side.