Seeking Opinions on Whether We "Need" an Outback Package

ethelouise

We found T@B trailers recently and have fallen in love.  

We are trying to decide whether we should get a regular S model or an S with the Outpack package.  We don't plan to go "off-road", but we do want to be able to occasionally drive on marginally improved roads in national and state parks. For example, one of our bucket list national parks is Chaco Culture National Historical Park in New Mexico with a 13 mile dirt access road into the park.  

We'd appreciate thoughts and opinions on whether we "need" the Outback package.  Thanks!

Dave28

We love our Outback. For us, it was the right decision. The main reason why we got the Outback is that we do most of our camping in the backcountry...rugged forest service "roads." We wanted the beefed-up tires and higher ground clearance. The other Outback features are cool, but not as essential to us as the tires and clearance.  You may well be very happy will a traditional platform...even occasionally on well-maintained dirt roads, being cautious around pot holes. You could easily get beefed-up tires as an after market option if desired.  

Nerdy1

We love our Outback as well.  We haven't had much time to camp yet since until this week, it was snow bound (got it at X-mas).  We plan to use it in rougher roads as well.  The other option, that I was told about, was that you can order the Outback beefed-up suspension/tires as an option on a regular unit.

jkjenn

ethelouise said:

We found T@B trailers recently and have fallen in love.  

We are trying to decide whether we should get a regular S model or an S with the Outpack package.  We don't plan to go "off-road", but we do want to be able to occasionally drive on marginally improved roads in national and state parks. For example, one of our bucket list national parks is Chaco Culture National Historical Park in New Mexico with a 13 mile dirt access road into the park.  

We'd appreciate thoughts and opinions on whether we "need" the Outback package.  Thanks!

It depends. If you can wait and order one, you can get a regular T@b with the features you want. I had the T@b axle and tires put on my T@b. The Outback came out after I bought mine. If I were to do it again, I would probably get the everything the Outback has but the rear basket. I almost always see them empty in pictures.

Nomad

Alternate view - As usual...
I spend have my life on backroads and boondocking - Don't have the Outback and for the rough stuff, the Outback still wouldn't have been high enough. Thought about having mine retrofitted like Jenn did but decided it wouldn't buy me enough to be worth it. Just have to bob-n-weave around potholes and rocks. For some rougher looking backroads, I drop the T@B and go explore. Never know what's around the next bend. Had to back out a quarter mile once :-(
Bought a $10 shovel so I could fill in trenches (washouts) or carve down a mound - used it this last week - washout was a foot+ deep and two feet wide. Filled it in and got up to a nice scenic viewpoint. Again, the Outback wouldn't have been high enough for that one. Might add a couple 2x8x4 planks so I could ramp up over some stuff.

jkjenn

PXLated said:

Alternate view - As usual...
I spend have my life on backroads and boondocking - Don't have the Outback and for the rough stuff, the Outback still wouldn't have been high enough. Thought about having mine retrofitted like Jenn did but decided it wouldn't buy me enough to be worth it. Just have to bob-n-weave around potholes and rocks. For some rougher looking backroads, I drop the T@B and go explore. Never know what's around the next bend. Had to back out a quarter mile once :-(
Bought a $10 shovel so I could fill in trenches (washouts) or carve down a mound - used it this last week - washout was a foot+ deep and two feet wide. Filled it in and got up to a nice scenic viewpoint. Again, the Outback wouldn't have been high enough for that one. Might add a couple 2x8x4 planks so I could ramp up over some stuff.

It has made a difference, for me, for sure. I used to scrape backing out of my brother's driveway and I don't any more.

Nomad

I'll just avoid your brother's driveway :-)

jkjenn

PXLated said:

I'll just avoid your brother's driveway :-)

It's a pretty basic straight, flat driveway (It is Ohio) that slants slightly to the street. I also hit an intersection in Montrose that I am sure would have scraped. 2-3" makes a bigger difference than you would imagine. I learned than when I had my Wrangler lifted (2.5")

Nomad

Only time I've ever scrapped was in an entrance to a gas station - broke my gray water valve :-(
Easily fixed though.

Ratkity

Hey PXL! Using any cool sturdy foldable shovel? Or just something from HD?

Nomad

Ratkity - Couldn't find a folding one but found a short (2.5ft) at Home Depot. Cute little thing :-)
Here's an example of what I tend to run into - a washout ... In this case it was too wide and dep on that left side to get across even with an Outback. Filled it in with dirt and rocks and got up to a great site...

sabel

We've had our Outback for about a year. On just about every trip we go over aprons, curbs or bumps in the road that make the OB worth it. Seldom on gravel roads but it's  good to have the capability.  Best option is the aluminum front rack and storage box. Less worries about rock chips and dents. We took off the spare tire from the roof rack and use it for light stuff.

Nomad

sabel - curbs? - Cutting those corners a little too sharply it would seem :-)

Michigan_Mike

Not to get off topic here but that reminds me of a buddy who ice fishes out on Saginaw Bay here in Michigan.  He uses a 4-wheeler to drive out onto the ice great distances to catch walleye, drags a couple of 8' 2x8" lengths of wood behind the wheeler and uses them to get across ice cracks when the wind shifts, moving the ice.  Some of those guys that fish late often end up needing to be rescued by the coast guard helicopter and those with wheelers have to leave them afloat on the ice flow and pay for recovery costs and environmental fees.  You would think that some of these folks would learn, but it is quite common to hear news reports each spring when these guys need to be rescued.  



And of course there are always these individuals who just can't take a clue.  

Photomom

Yeah, we get the same thing here most winters. http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070207/NEWS01/702070332

JustJohn

I also decided on the Outback for a couple of reasons. I had a SS and it was not unusual to drag at some gas stations and steep entrances so I wanted more ground clearance. I do not like the spare tire mounted under the camper because of access and clearance issues and the Outback solves that issue. There are some who have expressed concern about the long term durability of the rack and tire mounted on the rear but to my knowledge there have been no issues with it, and I know if there is I can depend on LG to make it right (that's why this is my second LG unit). Last but very important to me is the additional storage afforded by the front platform and the larger tub. I have been very happy with mine so far and based on your description of how you plan to camp, I think you would not be disappointed with the Outback.

Nomad

I moved my tire so don't have to worry about that dragging at all.

Ratkity

I moved my tire as well and put the yakima rack for the T@B on the back. I did find out that it acts like an ice dam in a 24"+ snow. The cover over my fantastic fan vent prevented any water from getting inside the camper. I could've done the "by the jack" tire attachment, but I thought the rack had a coolness factor

hunter99

Just curious, does the Outback still have the spare tire mount underneath? Have wondered about that.

JustJohn

hunter99 said:

Just curious, does the Outback still have the spare tire mount underneath? Have wondered about that.

My 2016 does not have the tire mount underneath.

T@Balong

Just FYI...........I noticed that the step into the T@B in the Outback model is higher than with other models.   If anyone has some difficulty negotiating higher steps, they might want to take that into consideration.

jkjenn

TABalong said:

Just FYI...........I noticed that the step into the T@B in the Outback model is higher than with other models.   If anyone has some difficulty negotiating higher steps, they might want to take that into consideration.

It is a slightly more awkward first step for me now that I have raised it but I find it more awkward when I step down, then when I step up.

rhu6ar6

I'm in the same predicament as ethelouise, trying to decide if I want (or need) the Outback. I'm thinking I want the T@B S Max Outback. There is a pretty good overview of the Outback features in a video that LittleGuy put up on YouTube. https://youtu.be/5-RJQRn_Hsc

Tabaz

I've had my Outback since October. Would buy it again in a heartbeat. But it was love at first site on the dealer's lot, so no time for a quantitative cost/benefit analysis. 

leroybort

We're with OutbackAZ except we got ours in November.  Love at first sight (although we'd done an awful lot of internet searching and looking at other trailers).  We're glad it's got the extra clearance 'cause we want to be able to go offroad/backcountry when that's an option.  Not sure we'd feel as confident without it since we're not exactly the McGyver type.

Tabaz

i'll defer to PXLated who seems to explore some pretty rugged venues without benefit of an Outback. Verna is in the same category. I hope they weigh in here.  No need to spend the extra money on an Outback if one doesn't use all the features.

Nomad

The Outback model wasn't available when I got my T@B but when Jenn changed out her axel it made me start thinking about it and paying more attention (and thinking back) and came to the realization that the places I wanted to go that I couldn't, I couldn't even with the Outback. I've learned to dodge & weave over rough roads and bought a shovel where I can now either fill in a ditch or carve down a rise and get places. The Outback would allow less dodging &weaving though.
But, like with everything, it depends on where your going/camping.
The only damage I've had was I cut a corner a little tight and the step caught a rock - thought I'd miss it. Was going real slow so it wasn't bent all to heck. Easily removed and straightened.

Keltdubh

@ethelouise The question is...  Do you want an Outback Model?  Much like OutbackAZ, it was love at first sight when we saw it on line.  We watched the video mentioned above and just loved the overall appearance of the Outback from the grey accents on the interior to the rugged exterior appearance.  If it speaks to you and you can afford it, then get it.  If you find that you are having a hard time justifying the price difference than it probably isn't speaking to you.

Tabaz

Keltdubh said:
If it speaks to you and you can afford it, then get it.  If you find that you are having a hard time justifying the price difference than it probably isn't speaking to you.

Whoa. This sage advice could be applied to all aspects of our lives - monetary or otherwise. Post often Keltdudh. You are an Oracle.

Ratkity

The Oracle hath spoken! I agree with the sage advice. 

In my few years of living on this planet, I've found I research the heck out of one item and set my sights on it (affordability, practicality, brand.. yes. OCD). I think I'm prepared and go to make my purchase.....

And then..... (it never fails), I always take a peek at the next best option up (or the best available) and then ignore it exists and then regret not getting it (despite it being more expensive). Today, my philosophy is if I see the next best option(s) up and like it, I allow myself to get it. Even if it means eating Ramon noodles a few extra nights or cutting something petty out of the budget. I've been much happier and have never regretted any of those purchase decisions. 

Do what feels right and follow The Oracle's advice. If that Outback whispered even a tiny "sweet nothing" in your ear, get it. Never live with regrets.

*hugs*

Keltdubh

ORACLE!!!  Now that's funny!  Ratkity hit the nail on the head, though.  You perfectly described our approach to buying in recent years, right down to the Ramen Noodles, and we too have never had a single regret.