How much stuff do you carry in your T@B ?? - Cargo Weights

rfuss928

I recently had the unique opportunity to see exactly how much stuff we carry in our T@B. 
SUNT@B needed a new floor and it had to be empty to begin the replacement.
We keep the camper ready to go anytime.  So other than our cloths bags and perishable foods, everything is on board.
Everything was removed and placed in plastic bins, boxes and baskets then set aside to be reloaded later.
As I re-equipped the completed trailer, I weighed everything!
I will preface the results with the perspective that we are very lightweight campers having used a tandem bicycle as our RV for many years prior to SUNT@B.  When we attend rallies or gatherings of similar campers, we clearly are at the less stuff end of the spectrum. The interior and kitchen are ready to use even when we are on the move because nothing has to travel in the living spaces.

That being said, this is what I found:

		sub-total		orig equip
INTERIOR		288
Batteries	120	120		60
Porta Potty with water	31
Closet shelves	7
Front shelves	12
Front upper cabinet stuff	15
75 foot 12-3 extension cord	9
30 foot 30 amp extension cord	8
BatteryMinder	3
Front trunk organizer	15
Vacuum cleaner	5
Electric heater	3
Flower power awning	17
Visor XL	5
Texsport  hatch shelter	5
Extra hoses, broom, brush	5
Brakes, bearings, jack, air pump	22
candles, patio lights	5
spare parts boxes	6
Steps	15
Grills	11
Stabilizer crank	2			2
Folding chairs	19
Charcoal, bucket	13
Table	35			35
Slats	14			14
Patio mat 6 X 9	6
TONGUE BOX		90
Chocks, blocks, Drill, lock,lighter	23
10# composite LPG tank - full	20			20
5# steel LPG tank - full	15
Rubber mat	2
BAL leveler	16
25 foot 30 amp service cord	9			9
30 foot fresh water hose	5
KITCHEN		174
Box 1 - upper cabinets	19
Box 2 - under sink	16
Box 3 - Pots & pans cabinet	28
Flatware, utensils, teapot, towels	21
10 gallons of fresh water	80
Plasticware	7
Wine sign & mat	3
CUSHIONS & BEDDING		95
Cushions -  5 each	20			20
Memory foam & cover	24
Pillows	9
Sheets & towels	20
Comforter & pad	10
Rugs	6
Towels	6
TOTAL		767		160
NET ADDED WEIGHT		607

Over 600 pounds!!! 
I'm sure there is easily another 100 pounds of clothing, toiletries and food items to be added before we drive away.
The back of the TV has two plastic totes of supplies, a cooler and a tool bag.  The back seat is Bella's.

With the 1680 pound empty trailer weight there is nearly 2400 pounds total not including any of the weight in the TV.
Something to compare to your own "list" and consider when choosing TVs

Have fun!  Travel safe!

wizard1880

Depending on model and year/month of manufacture, you get either a 2800, 2900 or a 3500 lbs axle.  Our early 2014 CS (not wetbath) model came with the 3500 axle, and even with 15 inch tires! It depends on what they have available at the factory at the moment of manufacture.

Smullis7

I had to unload mine to send it in for repairs from hail damage...an entire reskining.  I carry way more than I thought I did...

Mouseketab

Also note that Dutchmen T@Bs max out at 1930. Most of the stuff on your list I keep in my tow vehicle. I travel  with no water in my tank and just a small bit in my portapotty. The chairs, rugs, spare tables, awnings, cooler, bucket of extension cords, BAL Leveler, tools, and food box all go in the back of the truck. I have gotten rid of the original table. I weighed mine at a truck stop fully loaded about 5 years ago, and I was at 1950, so I am over weight, but not by much. I need to weigh again and adjust now that I've added the power mover.

rfuss928

I took SUNT@B to the scale today and with everything listed above on board it weighed 2280 pounds.
Subtracting the measured added weight of 607 results in an empty weight of 1673 pounds.
The weight and capacity sticker on the T@B says 1680. 
Now that's unbelievably close!

Ratkity

rfuss928 said:

I took SUNT@B to the scale today and with everything listed above on board it weighed 2280 pounds.
Subtracting the measured added weight of 607 results in an empty weight of 1673 pounds.
The weight and capacity sticker on the T@B says 1680. 
Now that's unbelievably close!

Wow!! So many manufacturers understate their trailer weights (meh - the give or take 10% rule). For people with smaller TVs and are tentatively upgrading to a bumper pull where weight is crucial, I agree!! Unbelievably close. Part of the refreshing honesty and customer awareness we all know and love.

dsatwork

Weight and where you position it, is important for Tab owners and especially those of us with Tab 320 S models. I'm not sure about the clam shells and the Tab's without a shower seem to have adequate storage in the front.  However, the Tab's with a shower, it seems that most of the available storage is behind the axle. Then compound that problem with this being a light trailer that is attractive to midsize SUV's owners that have limited tongue weight. When you combine these it's really important to know how much your trailer weighs and where it's located. We have all seen the video demonstration of what happens if there is too much weight in the back of your trailer. The first time I towed the Tab, I was shocked how rear-end heavy it felt compared to towing my little guy 5 wide, where most of the storage is on the platform up front. So, with my 2016 Sorento V6 AWD's 5000 lbs tow capacity and a 500 lbs tongue weight, I decided to swap out the standard battery tub for a larger box. With the larger box I was able to have two 100AH AGM batteries the standard propane tank and a place to mount the spare on the side of the box. I'll also be carrying a honda generator on the tongue for a total tongue weight of 315 lbs. This weekend were taking it up to the mountains for our final shakedown trip. I need to see how it tows with the added weight on the tongue before we head out on our 3,144 mile trip in late May early June. We'll be going from San Diego to Yellowstone to Mt Rushmore then back through Colorado to San Diego.

Photomom

wizard1880 said:

Depending on model and year/month of manufacture, you get either a 2800, 2900 or a 3500 lbs axle.  Our early 2014 CS (not wetbath) model came with the 3500 axle, and even with 15 inch tires! It depends on what they have available at the factory at the moment of manufacture.

How do you know which axle you have?

rfuss928

I thought some folks might find this useful in estimating/realizing how much weight they add to their vehicles (TV & T@B) loading up all their stuff.  It is not real specific for many items but makes one think about the kitchen cabinet full of pots and pans could easily be 30 pounds.  Almost 100 pounds total goes into our kitchen not including food and water. The same thing with bedding, mattress topper and towels..
Add to my list some very common accessories like a side tent, gas grill, Coleman stove, E-Z up, dutch oven, bicycles.......
It is really ill-advised to think a TV with a 2000# rating will be adequate especially for a "newbie" with no towing experience asking for advise.
Be smart.
Be safe.
Most of all - Have fun!

dsatwork

rfuss928 said:

I thought some folks might find this useful in estimating/realizing how much weight they add to their vehicles (TV & T@B) loading up all their stuff.  It is not real specific for many items but makes one think about the kitchen cabinet full of pots and pans could easily be 30 pounds.  Almost 100 pounds total goes into our kitchen not including food and water. The same thing with bedding, mattress topper and towels..
Add to my list some very common accessories like a side tent, gas grill, Coleman stove, E-Z up, dutch oven, bicycles.......
It is really ill-advised to think a TV with a 2000# rating will be adequate especially for a "newbie" with no towing experience asking for advise.
Be smart.
Be safe.
Most of all - Have fun!

Point well taken and one I personally had to struggle with because I had a lot of faith in my 2008 CR-V especially the way I had the rear suspension beefed up. Ultimately I decided it would be best to have more than needed. Now, I'm thrilled with the possibility the larger tow vehicle gives me.

wizard1880

Photomom said:

How do you know which axle you have?

There is a sticker attached to the frame, facing outwards near the front jack.  It's fairly easy to find.  I'm not at home otherwise I'd put a picture of mine and where to find it.  I'll try to do that this weekend.

wizard1880

Here's mine.  It also state's your tire size, though in my case it is incorrect:

wizard1880

And here's where it can be found:

Sprockethead

rfuss928 said:

I recently had the unique opportunity to see exactly how much stuff we carry in our T@B. 
SUNT@B needed a new floor and it had to be empty to begin the replacement.
We keep the camper ready to go anytime.  So other than our cloths bags and perishable foods, everything is on board.
Everything was removed and placed in plastic bins, boxes and baskets then set aside to be reloaded later.
As I re-equipped the completed trailer, I weighed everything!
I will preface the results with the perspective that we are very lightweight campers having used a tandem bicycle as our RV for many years prior to SUNT@B.  When we attend rallies or gatherings of similar campers, we clearly are at the less stuff end of the spectrum. The interior and kitchen are ready to use even when we are on the move because nothing has to travel in the living spaces.

That being said, this is what I found:

		sub-total		orig equip
INTERIOR		288
Batteries	120	120		60
Porta Potty with water	31
Closet shelves	7
Front shelves	12
Front upper cabinet stuff	15
75 foot 12-3 extension cord	9
30 foot 30 amp extension cord	8
BatteryMinder	3
Front trunk organizer	15
Vacuum cleaner	5
Electric heater	3
Flower power awning	17
Visor XL	5
Texsport  hatch shelter	5
Extra hoses, broom, brush	5
Brakes, bearings, jack, air pump	22
candles, patio lights	5
spare parts boxes	6
Steps	15
Grills	11
Stabilizer crank	2			2
Folding chairs	19
Charcoal, bucket	13
Table	35			35
Slats	14			14
Patio mat 6 X 9	6
TONGUE BOX		90
Chocks, blocks, Drill, lock,lighter	23
10# composite LPG tank - full	20			20
5# steel LPG tank - full	15
Rubber mat	2
BAL leveler	16
25 foot 30 amp service cord	9			9
30 foot fresh water hose	5
KITCHEN		174
Box 1 - upper cabinets	19
Box 2 - under sink	16
Box 3 - Pots & pans cabinet	28
Flatware, utensils, teapot, towels	21
10 gallons of fresh water	80
Plasticware	7
Wine sign & mat	3
CUSHIONS & BEDDING		95
Cushions -  5 each	20			20
Memory foam & cover	24
Pillows	9
Sheets & towels	20
Comforter & pad	10
Rugs	6
Towels	6
TOTAL		767		160
NET ADDED WEIGHT		607

Over 600 pounds!!! 
I'm sure there is easily another 100 pounds of clothing, toiletries and food items to be added before we drive away.
The back of the TV has two plastic totes of supplies, a cooler and a tool bag.  The back seat is Bella's.

With the 1680 pound empty trailer weight there is nearly 2400 pounds total not including any of the weight in the TV.
Something to compare to your own "list" and consider when choosing TVs

Have fun!  Travel safe!

This is Exactly why I don't tow my 20' Rpod anymore!, Objects in the Mirror are larger than they seem... My 2016 4Runner V-6 seemed Overworked.

Mouseketab

So aren't you now overweight, since you have an Al-Ko frame that maxes out at 1939?