[email protected] 400 with Alde 3020 Winterization

I'm trying to follow the "Travels With Delaney" video dealing with winterization. Patrick has a [email protected] 400 with an Alde 3010 and uses the Camco 36543 Winterization Kit to add antifreeze. I'm having trouble finding out where to install the that kit's valve on 400 with an Alde 3020.  Can someone please provide guidance? 

I don't plan to use the blowout method for winterization. Thank you.
Jean & Arnie  NorCal 
2019 [email protected] 400 BL
03 Sequoia

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  • manatra2manatra2 Posts: 1Member
    I installed my Winterization Kit valve the same place that Patrick did in the closet. The only difference I noticed is the 3020 has 2 yellow valves to drain on the heater when winterizing.

    Mike & Cathy
    2019 [email protected]
    Crestline, Ohio
  • peterjoce400peterjoce400 Posts: 6Member
    does that mean there is no yellow lift lever for draining the hot water tank? NuCamp says it should be between the red tank and the Alde unit ( I can't seem to find it in my 2019).  Certainly there are not 3 valves as is described in that video ( red and blue but no middle one).  I like the Delaney set up for pumping the antifreeze in: wonder why this wouldn't be a standard instal by the factory. 
    Peter  Nanaimo,B.C.
    2019 [email protected]
    2011 Honda Ridgeline
  • NorthIsUpNorthIsUp Posts: 31Member
    I'm decided that I'm going with the air blowout method, rather than installing the valve.  Attached is a photo of the two yellow valves (follow the yellow arrows) for @peterjoce400 et al. The other two valves are just inside the access door and marked with green arrows. This is for a 2019 [email protected] 400 with the Alde 3020HE. 
    Jean & Arnie  NorCal 
    2019 [email protected] 400 BL
    03 Sequoia
  • scottdickiescottdickie Posts: 21Member
    Do you have to do anything with the glycol tank when you winterize?
  • dvgibsondvgibson Posts: 26Member
    Thanks to Delaney for making it so very clear how to winterize the 400! But I have a question: Why bypass the hot water heater? Won't that leave freezable water in the tank? 
    [email protected] 400 2018 Tacoma TRD SR5
  • peterjoce400peterjoce400 Posts: 6Member
    Thanks North is Up for your pic and the great markings.  As I suspected our 2019 400 doesnot have these yellow valves.  Those white fittings on the blue and red lines at the end of the yellow arrows, are there, and what appears to be a sealed hole in the floor under them, but definitely no yellow valves.  That was confirmed today by the tech at the R.V. shop.  He says they leak anyways and you don't need them(?). Tells me to close bypass valve and open the low point drain valves (end of your green arrows).  I have emails to Jason at NuCamp about this.   I like the Delaney set up for pumping the antifreeze in: wonder why this wouldn't be a standard instal by the factory. Parts are $28Cdn at our R.V. shop on V.I.
    Peter  Nanaimo,B.C.
    2019 [email protected]
    2011 Honda Ridgeline
  • Sharon_is_SAMSharon_is_SAM Posts: 2,801Moderator
    Can someone provide a picture of the 2019 TaB 400 Alde plumbing.  Sounds like they changed something.
    Sharon
    Cleveland Heights, Ohio
    2017 TaB CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan

  • treefrogtreefrog Posts: 16Member
    Hope this helps, trailer built in sept 2018.
    Unrelated news. You don't have to loosen screw to adjust temp on mixing valve but the knob is hard to turn.


    2019 [email protected] 400.  2018 4Runner in Tigard OR.
  • peterjoce400peterjoce400 Posts: 6Member
    further to those yellow valves, Jason at NuCamp confirms they should be there...my dealer confirms they had removed them prior to delivery thinking they are leak prone (claim the pressure buildup can overwhelm the plastic construction of the valve) which NuCamp says they are not aware of ( NuCamp would like to talk to my dealer about this). Has anyone experienced a leakage problem?  I have been very pleased with the immediate response Jason at NuCamp has given my emails to get to the bottom of why my unit didn't have the valves and states that they will ship my dealer new valves if they don't have them in stock ( I would think they should have 2 - mine).  I've asked dealer today to put them back!  As to changes in plumbing, its that there is now only one blue line at low point drain rather than two.  Not sure when in 2018 they went that route for the 2019 models.
    Peter  Nanaimo,B.C.
    2019 [email protected]
    2011 Honda Ridgeline
  • NorthIsUpNorthIsUp Posts: 31Member
    edited October 19
    I did go with the blowout method by opening up all the valves to drain whatever water was possible and using a special fitting on an air compressor. Then after closing all the valves and setting the Alde to bypass mode, I added about 3 gallons of RV antifreeze to the fresh water tank. I turned on the water pump and made sure that the antifreeze was able to flow through in the hot and cold water faucets of the kitchen sink, bathroom sink and the shower. Once I had pink flowing through each, I shut off the water pump. I then poured a total of another gallon of RV antifreeze into the drains of the sinks and shower.  @dvgibson I think the idea of not letting RV antifreeze into the water heater is that it could damage it. I suspect that draining the system, drains all the water from the heater.  @scottdickie The Alde glycol isn't affected by cold temps. It is actually ethylene glycol aka antifreeze, but different than that of the automotive persuasion which contains additives.  
    Jean & Arnie  NorCal 
    2019 [email protected] 400 BL
    03 Sequoia
  • ScottGScottG Posts: 2,211Moderator
    further to those yellow valves, Jason at NuCamp confirms they should be there...my dealer confirms they had removed them prior to delivery thinking they are leak prone (claim the pressure buildup can overwhelm the plastic construction of the valve) which NuCamp says they are not aware of ( NuCamp would like to talk to my dealer about this). Has anyone experienced a leakage problem?
    ...
    I recall a few reported leakage problems with those valves, but it doesn't appear to be widespread. They will very likely "leak" if you don't use a pressure regulator, but that is what they are designed to do!
  • Sharon_is_SAMSharon_is_SAM Posts: 2,801Moderator
    @NorthIsUp, you said you poured water into your drains - you meant antifreeze, right?  Also, did you bypass before running your pump?
    Sharon
    Cleveland Heights, Ohio
    2017 TaB CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan

  • NorthIsUpNorthIsUp Posts: 31Member
    edited October 19
    @Sharon_is_SAM - yes, RV antifreeze. Corrected. I did set the bypass. Also, corrected. Thank you. 
    Jean & Arnie  NorCal 
    2019 [email protected] 400 BL
    03 Sequoia
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