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Alde Worked Yesterday - Today Nothing

michaelroyymichaelroyy Member Posts: 32
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I own a 2015 320S Boondock. I brought my trailer into the garage to start fiddling. Yesterday, I plugged it into the house current, turned on the heat, and all good. Didn't get around to any fiddling, so I shut it down. This morning, I turn it on and nothing. No clicking, no anything... The analog thermostat is set on (2) lightning bolts, no propane, heat/hot water, and the dialer on 5. I shut everything down and pulled the plug with the battery off. I plugged back in and tried the Alde with no success. Checked the fuses, the breakers, the plug...nothing. I have attached some pictures in case I missed something to check. I would really appreciate any suggestions.
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  • pthomas745pthomas745 Moderator Posts: 4,005
    If: the Alde was still "on" this morning when you plugged into shore power, you may have blown the fuses on top of the Alde.  Just staring at these Alde fuses won't tell you very much: somehow, they are almost impossible to look at and tell if one or the other is blown.
    I can't read any of your "docX" files, but it appears you have opened up the Alde and found the two fuses on the top of the unit?
    What you should do is: test the fuses for continuity with a multimeter, if you know how to do that (not hard, I learned on YouTube!)
    Or: replace both fuses.  The original Alde fuses were "fast blow" fuses, which proved to be quite problematic in the Alde 3010 models.  A change to the "slow blow" type solved most of the issue.  I blew fuses on a regular basis, changed to slow blow fuses 5 years ago.  Out of the pack of 10....I have 8 left!
    There are a couple of threads on why this happens.  One mentions a poor grounding setup for the Alde as a culprit.  This one mentions the idea of having the Alde "off" before plugging in the trailer, etc.
    See this comment by "Michigan Mike".

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  • MuttonChopsMuttonChops Member Posts: 1,737
    michaelroyy said:
    . . . 2015 320S
    . . . plugged it into the house current [20A service], turned on the heat, and all good.
    . . .This morning, I turn it on and nothing.
    First Set the ADLE Panel to OFF, all switches at bottom.

    Second, when you 'checked' the three fuses did you remove them and verify with an ohm-meter?
        That is the only reliable method.  Two Green Case on control board and One on DC Fuse panel

    Third, house power service appears to still be OK (indicator at Alde 120VAC outlet)

    Fourth,  Now turn on Alde at Planel with:
        One Electric Coil, No propane, Heat+water, and finally temperature in 3.5 - 3.75 range


    Wait a bit - - - has Alde started to operate ?
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  • FreespiritFreespirit Member Posts: 163
    I have had that happen to me and my GFCI popped for that particular circuit. In my case the GFCI was not on the outlet the TAB was plugged into. 
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  • michaelroyymichaelroyy Member Posts: 32
    Thank you for your comments. Sorry, I went dark for part of the holiday weekend. I checked the fuses with my meter, and they were all good. Followed my idol MuttonChops process, but without success. I will try that again because my head is spinning a little trying to make this happen. There is shore power to the trailer and the receptacle that the Alde plugs into registers normal on my plug-in meter. As this is not enough, I dropped the glass fuse AND fuse holder down the side where the circuit board. The Alde abyss. Not sure it is worth pulling everything to get it or buy a new one. If this has happened to anyone else, suggestions appreciated. I will buy the slow rate fuses. Still chilly in Portland OR.
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  • MuttonChopsMuttonChops Member Posts: 1,737
    @michaelroyy;  After you have replaced/installed the dropped fuse . . . .

    You might try:

    A]   At this point we all have been assuming your 12-VDC is OK.
          Alde requires for operation.
          So maybe your battery died on the first day AND your convertor has failed.
          Do Any of the 12-VDC items ( Fan, Cabin lights ) function correctly?

    B]  Completely power-off trailer.  Battery Off (if no disconnect switch remove in-line fuse).
          And shore power off.
          Wait 5-10 minutes and power back up; battery on first.

    C]   Have you set the Adle Electric to Zero and Propane to On
          To see if propane only (with battery on) works.
    '18 320 S,  pitched axle, 3020HE; PNW based
    TV: '17 Colorado V6 Z71 4x4, Tow Package, GM Brake Controller
    Adventures:  54   Nights:  341  Towing Miles 43,780
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  • pthomas745pthomas745 Moderator Posts: 4,005
    @michaelroyy I'm sorry..I usually always mention the Alde Abyss and the need to block off the area around the Alde.....and the one time I don't, the Alde claims another victim.
    I have been there and done that, too!  This thread shows the one screw holding the cover of the "service hatch" to the Alde.  When the hatch/cover, etc is removed, you have a bit more room to maneuver around the Alde.  The threads also include information on what the fuse holders are and where they can be found.


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