Leveling

Is there a point to leveling the trailer other than making it more comfortable to walk in?  Is it as simple as adjusting the tongue jack and the stabilizers to get it close or do you need some kind of equipment? A small level came with the trailer,  not sure if I need anything else.   
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  • dragonsdoflydragonsdofly Posts: 991Member
    Yes, there are other reasons to level the trailer besides human comfort. Your tank guages won't work properly or may give you incorrect readings. Most of your trailers equipment will operate better when level. Doors can swing open or closed when not level. A/C condensation can overflow the drip pan if the trailer is not leveled. It can be harder to drain and flush your black and gray tanks, etc. I'm not meaning an engineering type of level, or within millimeters of perfect, but general within the bubble kind of level.
    2017 [email protected] sofitel([email protected])TV 2005 gmc envoy xl. Wyandotte, Michigan.
    Draco dormiens numquam titilandus.
  • gooddogs74gooddogs74 Posts: 76Member
    edited December 2017
    Ok, I guess this is my next area of research then.   So. Much. Stuff. 
  • HalooHaloo Posts: 130Member
    I got a set of leveling blocks (Camco) for my 400 and use the leveling app on my iPhone.  I set the phone flat on the kitchen counter to get a reading.  So far it has worked great.
    [email protected] 400 | F150 | Washington State
  • dragonsdoflydragonsdofly Posts: 991Member
    @gooddogs74, we were in the same place as you. Total rv newbies. Never did this before and in 1 year 18,000 miles, 35 states (we are not retired) during only 2 vacations, and all this stuff is comfortable, if not completely second nature. But it will be, soon. You got this. As I said, enjoy the learning experience.  -Denise
    2017 [email protected] sofitel([email protected])TV 2005 gmc envoy xl. Wyandotte, Michigan.
    Draco dormiens numquam titilandus.
  • HalooHaloo Posts: 130Member
    Ok, I guess this is my next area of research then.   So. Much. Stuff. 
    While your at it, if the dealer didn’t give you a pressure regulator for the city water hookup, make sure you get one of those.

    Also get a surge suppressor for when you hook up to shore power in campgrounds.  Sometimes the power isn’t very consistent, or may not be properly configured.  Search “surge suppressors” on this forum for the different approaches you can take.
    [email protected] 400 | F150 | Washington State
  • jgram2jgram2 Posts: 1,207Member
    In the 320, sometimes you actually cannot get the fridge lit on propane if you are not level.
    John, Judi, Guinness & OD in PDX
    [email protected]@t 2015 S Max Outback, ‘06 V8 4Runner 


  • ericnlizericnliz Posts: 4,427Member
    @ScottG , I laughed HARD when I saw the lol was from @Verna!!! Ya' know, the one who ...hmmm...(forgot) to put the stabilizers down! :rofl:
    2016 [email protected] MAX S-aka: [email protected]
    TV: 2006 Chevy Avalanche LT Z71 aka: WhiteWolf, or 1972 Chevy Custom10 P/U aka: SnarlingWolf
    Spokane, Wa.
    Eric aka: Lone Wolf  with,
    Ruger aka: Adventure Companion

  • VernaVerna Posts: 4,980Administrator
    Hey, @ericnliz, I made it all the way to Western Texas on this trip without having to put the stabilizers down. If it just overnight, I don’t bother....until the 20 mph winds hit me broadside!  I went two more nights without having to unhitch to level, and yes I put the stabilizers down. Sometimes it just makes for a quicker getaway in the am, says the not-a-Morning-person. 
    Verna, Indianapolis, Indiana, but living full time in my [email protected] 400; 2019 [email protected] 400 Boondock Lite white/red; towed by a red 2015 Toyota Tacoma V6 TRD 4x4; [email protected] Administrator.  “If not now, when?”




  • ScottGScottG Posts: 2,744Moderator
    @ericnliz, I must have missed some story somewhere along the way...  I was talking about rolling downhill in the bed, but it sounds like @Verna may have had a different sort of downhill rolling experience on a particularly windy night!
  • VernaVerna Posts: 4,980Administrator
    @ScottG, nope. Just the thought of a [email protected] rolling away makes me think of my driveway with approxinately 12” drop from the house to the street. No way am I going to put a wheel on my [email protected] tongue jack!

    I was so rudely awakened last week by a 20 mph wind hitting me broadside. I got the stabilizer tool out at 1:30 am, didn’t care if I disturbed anyone, and I put those stabilizers down quickly! 
    Verna, Indianapolis, Indiana, but living full time in my [email protected] 400; 2019 [email protected] 400 Boondock Lite white/red; towed by a red 2015 Toyota Tacoma V6 TRD 4x4; [email protected] Administrator.  “If not now, when?”




  • RatkityRatkity Posts: 3,690Member
    V, I'm guessing there was no way you could turn the [email protected] a bit where you were at the time. I hate wind storms more than tstorms or fog. I even hate the wind that gets pushed through when a fast moving front rolls in. The human barometer in me hates it too! 
    2017 820R Retro Toy Hauler from 2015 Tabitha [email protected] from 2009 Reverse LG Teardrop (but a [email protected] at heart)
  • Michigan_MikeMichigan_Mike Posts: 2,415Administrator
    I was up about 9K feet earlier this year in Colorado and the terrain dropped off sharply behind the trailer.  The only other thing behind the wheels was one of them concrete parking barricades which wouldn't have done much if the trailer rolled.  I not only took great pains in leveling the trailer, I installed my wheel chocks and found some decent sized rocks and wedged them behind the wheels.  As an added safety measure I also took the safety chains and hooked them to my Silverado.  

    My rear stabilizers were nearly fully extended and I needed to add cribbing under them to get the trailer level.  Needless to say the wind started to howl that night and we could feel the gusts hitting the side of the trailer and it was a bit scary thinking of the possibilities.  It didn't happen on that trip, but there have been times I'd wake up, thinking the trailer was rolling downhill.  And I know a lady who nearly lost her teardrop along the Blue Ridge Mountains after unhooking the safety chains, jacking the trailer up off the hitch and not properly chocking her wheels, then watching it take off downhill before lodging against a fallen tree.  

    Things can and do happen so evaluate the terrain, leave yourself an out and take whatever safety precautions you feel are necessary to protect yourself, others and your trailer.  
    Mike Smith 
    Linden, Mi
    2015 [email protected] Max S
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  • EstancioEstancio Posts: 209Member
    Odd man out here...I have never had a reason to "level" my [email protected] in 7 years of use. On level terrain, I always use 4 stabilizers and a non-rolling tongue foot. On uneven terrain, I have always remained hitched up to tow vehicle. I do adjust the direction In which I sleep.
  • ericnlizericnliz Posts: 4,427Member
    @Estancio, Yep, 'ya gotta watch out for that downhill slide thing! :o :s ;)
    2016 [email protected] MAX S-aka: [email protected]
    TV: 2006 Chevy Avalanche LT Z71 aka: WhiteWolf, or 1972 Chevy Custom10 P/U aka: SnarlingWolf
    Spokane, Wa.
    Eric aka: Lone Wolf  with,
    Ruger aka: Adventure Companion

  • JustJohnJustJohn Posts: 170Member
    Gooddogs, When I first got my [email protected] I used the same yellow blocks I used to level my Silver Shadow. After a while I went with the Bal system. It worked very well but was bulky and needed to be cleaned to work properly. Then I saw the Anderson leveling system at a campground in West Virginia. After watching the lady next to me level her Micro Winnie in about 2 minutes with the Anderson drive on system, I ordered one that night from Amazon. The point being, there are serveral different ways to level so take some time to decide what's best for you. No one system suits everyone. I am all about making things easy(some might say lazy) and the Anderson blocks work well for me. The Bal is also a good system and used by many on this forum. One advantage of both systems is they act as wheel chocks when in use.
    2016 Outback.....North East N.C...... Former 2012 Silver Shadow
  • dsatworkdsatwork Posts: 744Member
    Unlike 3-way, the  Norcold AC/DC fridges are very forgiving.

    How level must the refrigerator be?

    Our AC/DC refrigerators (both Built-ins and Portable) will operate at angles of up to 30 degrees off level in both planes.

    2017 Tab Basic S Silver on Silver with Sofitel Cushions....upgraded from 2013 LG 5W....Towed by a 2016 Sorento V6 AWD w/5000lb tow capacity. Dave S. married to Jen aka SanDiegoGal We pull a Tab but live in a 2014 Airstream International Signature 27 FBQ...Talk about embracing a trailer lifestyle.
  • jkjennjkjenn Posts: 5,136Member
    I installed a Bluetooth leveling device before my last trip. It helped me find more level spots at Walmart and saved me time by helping me  find the most level spot in my site before I left my TV. 

    Jenn Grover | 2015  [email protected] S Max Silver/Turquoise Trim | 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk v6 | Nights spent in [email protected]: 180 | Pittsburgh PA

  • mammabear34mammabear34 Posts: 5Member
    Ok, I guess this is my next area of research then.   So. Much. Stuff. 

    Yes I feel the same !  I just brought mine home last week and SO glad I found this forum so I can learn everything there is to know, but WOW So..... much...stuff !!!!
    Paula & 2 yr old boy & a couple of 4-legged kids along for the ride.
    Vancouver, WA (near Portland OR)
    2015 [email protected] 320 S
    2016 Kia Sorento V6 AWD
  • Smullis7Smullis7 Posts: 221Member
    jkjenn said:
    I installed a Bluetooth leveling device before my last trip. It helped me find more level spots at Walmart and saved me time by helping me  find the most level spot in my site before I left my TV. 

    I received the same device you have for Christmas...still have to install it, but I think I'm going to like it better than guess at the most level spot.  :-)
    Sheila and the Mullis Pups (Winston, Morgan, Leroy & Dakota)
    [email protected] [email protected], my 2017 [email protected] Outback Max S (silver w/black trim), towed by Maude Myrtle, my 2016 Jeep Rubicon Hardrock.



  • ColleenD2ColleenD2 Posts: 321Member
    Question please, if you get the Anderson system, do you need one set or two?

    Travelers from Downtown St. Louis, Missouri
    2018 Ford Edge SEL AWD
    2019 custom [email protected] 320 U Boondock Lite-ish

  • Sharon_is_SAMSharon_is_SAM Posts: 3,720Moderator
    You only use the one Anderson leveler to back over with one wheel.  
    Sharon / 2017 [email protected] CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Cleveland Heights, Ohio
       
                                           
  • DenisPDenisP Posts: 105Member
    I use two Anderson levelers for winter (long term storage) as a means to possibly reduce flat spot by cradling the tires similar to how some collector cars are stored long term.

    2018 [email protected] 400 with Solar
    2013 Tundra TRD 5.7L
    Massachusetts
  • lkc001lkc001 Posts: 243Member
    Some 3-way fridges are more finicky than others, even within the same brand name fridge.  A good rule of thumb is to be no more than 1/2 bubble off level.  Had one fridge in an old RV that would run no matter how unlevel and same brand fridge in another trailer that had to be almost dead-on to run. . . . . . being un-level also affects other things as stated by other posters.   
    2016 Nissan Frontier SV V6 4x4
    Finally!  New Owner of a 2017 Tab 320S! 
    Woohoo!
  • lkc001lkc001 Posts: 243Member
    jkjenn said:
    I installed a Bluetooth leveling device before my last trip. It helped me find more level spots at Walmart and saved me time by helping me  find the most level spot in my site before I left my TV. 

    @jkjenn--what is the name of this bluetooth device please?  Thanks!


    2016 Nissan Frontier SV V6 4x4
    Finally!  New Owner of a 2017 Tab 320S! 
    Woohoo!
  • lkc001lkc001 Posts: 243Member
    @jkjenn--Thanks for the info about this unit!
    2016 Nissan Frontier SV V6 4x4
    Finally!  New Owner of a 2017 Tab 320S! 
    Woohoo!
  • lkc001lkc001 Posts: 243Member
    Is there a point to leveling the trailer other than making it more comfortable to walk in?  Is it as simple as adjusting the tongue jack and the stabilizers to get it close or do you need some kind of equipment? A small level came with the trailer,  not sure if I need anything else.   
    @gooddogs74--in addition to all of the other good info and answers here, the "stabilizers" are just that--ONLY to be used as stabilizers--NOT to jack up one side of the trailer to level--you use either leveling blocks & back-up onto them or Andersen levelers, etc to level one side or the other.  If you use the stabilizers to jack up the trailer you might torque/twist the trailer frame.  They are only for stabilizing after you are level.  You'll be fine---write out a checklist for hookups & unhooking/setting up--pretty soon it will be second nature.
    2016 Nissan Frontier SV V6 4x4
    Finally!  New Owner of a 2017 Tab 320S! 
    Woohoo!
  • BaylissBayliss Posts: 111Member
    edited February 6
    @gooddogs74 , since I had the perfect spot on my 320S Boondock platform, I installed these levels, which I purchased at Camping World.  They come with adhesive tape on the back, but I added self-tapping screws.  If you go this route, be sure to properly level the camper before attaching them.  A level parking lot is a good place to do that, but you may still need to slightly raise one side by pulling that side's wheel onto one or more leveling blocks.  You will also probably need to unhitch the camper from your tow vehicle so that you can properly adjust the camper level front to back using the front crank.  Use a standard construction level (large or small) on the camper floor to determine when you are level in both directions.  Once you are satisfied that the camper is level, attach the two levels outside the camper.  The mounting location depicted is handy because it is right where you need it when unhitching your camper.  I like these particular levels because they provide a simple indication of how many inches you need to raise or lower the camper.  By the way, if the small level you received from the dealer is round, that is good for placing inside the refrigerator to check if it is level, or close to level, which is definitely important for proper operation.  (Greg)


    Bayliss - 2019 [email protected] 320 S Boondock Lite; TV = 2007 Toyota Tundra
                  Greg & Marlene (Tucson, AZ)


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