Towing with water

rmcarthurrmcarthur Member Posts: 33
We are finding that many of our stops across the country do not have potable water. Do you travel with water in your [email protected] 320 (11 gallons) fresh water tank and, if so how much? Thanks!

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  • N7SHG_HamN7SHG_Ham Member Posts: 863
    Either travel with it empty or completely full to eliminate tank surge while towing. It is only eleven gallons, but that is still 92 pounds, if 1/2 full that is 46 pounds surging as your turn, stop and accelerate (much subdued surge when tank is completely full). I have a 400 and travel with a full tank which on the 400 is 250 pounds, as long as you DO NOT exceed weights anywhere (trailer tires, frame, axle and GVWR and same for tow vehicle with addition of total CGVW rating), I feel that extra weight really stabilizes the trailer.
    2019 [email protected] 400 Boondock Lite
  • Sharon_is_SAMSharon_is_SAM Moderator Posts: 5,463
    Surprised no potable water.  Where are you stopping?
    Sharon / 2017 [email protected] CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
  • webers3webers3 Member Posts: 153
    edited June 9
     Consider using bottled water or filling a large container you know has been well sanitized. Would not trust the fresh water tank for drinking water.
    2017 [email protected] 320S   2019 Jeep Cherokee - Southern Connecticut
  • ScottGScottG Moderator Posts: 3,575
    Yep, I always head out with a full tank--and a primed pump. One less thing to do when I arrive and I know I have at least one tank of good water!
  • db_cooperdb_cooper Member Posts: 588
    We only boondock, so always leave with full tank, lines filled and primed.  We're on a well, so I add a little chlorine to keep the lines and tank clean.  We only use for showers and flushing, carry separate drinking water.  And beer.
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  • pthomas745pthomas745 Member Posts: 1,280
    There are many places in the west where the campgrounds do not provide potable water. 
    2017 Outback
    Towed by 2014 Touareg TDi
  • xdrxdr Member Posts: 69
    How exactly do you prime a pump with a full tank on the Tab 400? Does that just mean turning on a faucet? 
    mae 
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  • Denny16Denny16 Member Posts: 722
    Yes, turn on the 12VDC system, disconnect from city water hookup and turn on the sink faucet, pump will come on, and should prime and water come out.  Then you are all set to go.  

    Since the water tank is over the axle, a full tank is better than a partial, as the water in a partial tank will slosh back and forth.  A full tank is better in the road, little to no water movement in the tank.
    cheers
    2018 TaB400, Jeep Gladiator truck, Northern California Coast
  • trimtabtrimtab Member Posts: 142
    "carry separate drinking water.  And beer."  that's my thinking also .. :) 
    2020 320-S, solar, etc.2016 Audi Q5
  • jenniferlzrjenniferlzr Member Posts: 38
    Do most people NOT drink the water from the tank? Why? 
  • Denny16Denny16 Member Posts: 722
    It’s OK, if you clean the tank with bleach solution and then flush it out, each time before going on a trip.  Most don’t bother and just use bottled water for drinking, a lot of urban dwellers do not drink their tap water either.  We run our own local water company which is treated and filtered well water, so we drink it, better than bottled water.
    cheers
    2018 TaB400, Jeep Gladiator truck, Northern California Coast
  • Denny16Denny16 Member Posts: 722

    You could also filter the TaB tank water wit a Berkey water filter system.
    cheers
    2018 TaB400, Jeep Gladiator truck, Northern California Coast
  • N7SHG_HamN7SHG_Ham Member Posts: 863
    @Denny16 we do exactly that.
    2019 [email protected] 400 Boondock Lite
  • BrianZBrianZ Member Posts: 1,135
    We usually bring a big jug of water filled from our home tap, and use it mostly for making coffee, but also for cooking & drinking.  We typically camp with hookups using city water & only sanitize/flush the fresh water tank once a year after de-winterizing.
    -Brian in Chester, Virginia
    TV: 2005 Toyota Sienna LE (3.3L V6)
    RV: 2018 [email protected] 320S, >70 mods 
  • GatorEggGatorEgg Member Posts: 242
    We only carry water in tanks when heading “way out there”.  With our Berkey filter we have potable virtually anywhere there’s water. But, As far as filling be open.  We’ve filled at city day park faucets, rest area faucets even malls have faucets on the outside wall.
    2018 [email protected] Boondock 320S, 2019 Toyota Tacoma Sport 4x4
    Odessa, Fl.  

  • NoVaGuyNoVaGuy Member Posts: 50
    @GatorEgg How do you like your Berkey.  Have been thinking about it.  Currently I used bottled water for drinking, coffee, etc. 
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  • Sharon_is_SAMSharon_is_SAM Moderator Posts: 5,463
    We did stay at a BLM outside Moab that did not have water.  There was a gas station in town that had a spigot - free with a fuel fill up!
    Sharon / 2017 [email protected] CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
  • MischiefBrewingMischiefBrewing Member Posts: 8
    Only have 2 boondocking trips under my belt in the new 2020 TAB400 but have realized that we're water hogs (what can I say, we enjoy our post-hike showers).  Currently developing a solution to refill while in the backwoods. 

    I have a 150-quart Igloo Marine cooler that I used for mashing grain during my old brewing days so it has a ball valve and quick disconnect on the drain spot.  Will seal the lid as best I can and fill all 37 gallons of it with potable water in the bed of the truck.  Have a brewing pump that I can run with the 110-volt outlet in the bed of the truck that also has quick disconnects on it and can accommodate the drinking water hose I store in the trailer on the outlet side. The truck only needs to be within 25 feet of the trailer and I can refill in less than 3 minutes.  Only issue is gray water and since we use all biodegradable camp soaps, draining that into the trees isn't a major issue.

    Plan to test in a week and a half.
  • AirBossAirBoss Member Posts: 307
    Don't mean to hijack the thread but a related question.

    Been looking for a schmatic of the water system layout for the 2020 [email protected] 400 with rear mounted AGM batteries, Alde and Air8 under the bunk. Like to know where the tanks are located. Understand the H2O is over the axle? Are the grey and black located on one side or the other? Centerline? I have a fair amount of gear in aft storage compartment on passenger side and want to ensure my load is balanced.

    Didn't see a thread on it here, nor detailed in the "UnOfficial [email protected] 400 Manual." 

    Thanks much!
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  • Denny16Denny16 Member Posts: 722
    The water tank is centered over the axle, the gray tank is forward of that.  The black tank is under the toilet and along the drivers side of the head in the raised bit under the fold out sink.  See the AirForce guy factory walk the video, it shows the black tank setup in the head from a left side exterior shot before the sides were attached.
    cheers
    2018 TaB400, Jeep Gladiator truck, Northern California Coast
  • Dutch061Dutch061 Member Posts: 47
    I fill our 2020 400 BDL to the rim before leaving, only because we regularly boondock (After all that's why we have a BDL). Plus my wife takes a longgggggg shower. Not wanting to start any battles, but if you are worried about the "slosh of water in a tank that is not fully filled" you may wish to rethink what you are towing with. In the last 15 plus years I have had 4 different campers and never worried about water slosh from a partially filled tank be it fresh water, grey water, or black water. But then again, I have always had "more than enough tow vehicle" in front of whatever I was towing so that I didn't have to worry about tongue weight, GVW, GCVW or otherwise.

    Brad
  • GatorEggGatorEgg Member Posts: 242
    NoVaGuy said:
    @GatorEgg How do you like your Berkey.  Have been thinking about it.  Currently I used bottled water for drinking, coffee, etc. 

    Love the Berkey.  Bought it years ago to filter the "flouride" out of our city water.  Hauled it around the Caribbean and Central America on our sailboat for years.  Now goes everywhere our trailer goes.  When not traveling it sits on our kitchen counter doing its thing.  We've got an extra set of filters for when the "big one" or hurricanes hit us.  My kids also bought one when they had their first child so they could provide good water for them.
    Plastic bottle water..... bad.
    2018 [email protected] Boondock 320S, 2019 Toyota Tacoma Sport 4x4
    Odessa, Fl.  

  • falcon1970falcon1970 Member Posts: 568
    Sloshing water in a half full fresh water tank in a TAB won't affect the tongue weight, GVW, or GCVW.  It will affect the side-to-side stability to some extent.  Whether it will effect it enough to cause control issues is a different point.  Probably not on a TAB but it might and on a larger trailer it surely will.  Towing with a minimally capable tow vehicle will just add to the excitement.
  • Denny16Denny16 Member Posts: 722
    Good point.  I towed my TaB 400 with a 1/2 tank of water, no issue, but was thinking from a “perfect world” perspective, of what would be optimal towing situation.  I may have been overthinking this one, since the tank is over the axle.
    As for effecting tongue weight, not an issue, only the gray and black (not so much as it is small)  tanks will add some to the tongue weight.
    cheers
    2018 TaB400, Jeep Gladiator truck, Northern California Coast
  • rmcarthurrmcarthur Member Posts: 33
    Thanks everyone! Sharon_is_SAM we are not 100% sure about the lack of potable water. We just need to ensure we can accomodate for such a situation. 
  • Sharon_is_SAMSharon_is_SAM Moderator Posts: 5,463
    @rmcarthur - yes, if you are planning on BLMs and more remote sites (as well as Walmart’s and Harvest Host type stops) water can be an issue.
    Sharon / 2017 [email protected] CSS / 2015 Toyota Sienna Minivan / Westlake, Ohio
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