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TAB 400 and the toilet question...
We're one step closer to possibly getting a Tab 400 BD in the coming weeks (RV loan pre-approved through our CU) and something we're curious about.
The 400 apparently doesn't have a cassette toilet? One of the things we like from what we've read (being first time RV owners soon) is that a cassette toilet means you don't have a blackwater tank to drain, just the cassette, which I would think would simplify winterizing the RV as well as not having to worry about having to pull the RV to a dump station if you fill the blackwater tank (just pull the cassette, walk to the nearest restroom or the dump station, dump, and return.)
Although, we did notice even the models with cassette toilets (320) have a blackwater tank, so the other question would be, what drains into that?
The 400 apparently doesn't have a cassette toilet? One of the things we like from what we've read (being first time RV owners soon) is that a cassette toilet means you don't have a blackwater tank to drain, just the cassette, which I would think would simplify winterizing the RV as well as not having to worry about having to pull the RV to a dump station if you fill the blackwater tank (just pull the cassette, walk to the nearest restroom or the dump station, dump, and return.)
Although, we did notice even the models with cassette toilets (320) have a blackwater tank, so the other question would be, what drains into that?
Re: Tongue Weight Major Concerns?
I’ll respectfully disagree. The physics doesn’t change. Engineering is a little different as they shoot for hitch weights of 4 to 9 percent.pthomas745 said:The video with the European trailers/vehicles are not applicable in any way for vehicles in the USA. Everything about European towing and safety design standards is completely different from the US safety and design standards. Cars are different, tow hitches are different, road speeds are different, etc. So, take that video with a big grain of European salt.Every once in a while someone shows up in various forums towing a Tab with a much too small vehicle, and when confronted, the claim is "They tow with it in Europe, so why not?"Here are the threads:
Many people towing t@bs tow with SUV’s and many are similar in size to European SUV’s.
I think the videos suggestions of cargo loading are valid and good knowledge for any T@B owner. One of the worst things I see on many trailers I see now are those big racks on the back of the trailers. Hundreds of pounds on the end of a trailer swinging around. What could go wrong.
Jmho
Re: Extended Warranty?
Generally not worth it. The 320 CS model has been out multiple years - long enough to have worked out any kinks. I guess you need to consider your access to a quality repair facility and your ability to self pay for repair work beyond the included 1 year warranty. Also, all the appliances have their own warranties. If you live within a reasonable drive to the factory, you can get factory quality repairs at a reasonable price. Not to mention the quality craftsmanship and materials used. These things are typically much more advantageous to the seller than the purchaser.
Re: Lug-nut size
You will hear many different opinions about using these. Some are in favor, many (and most mechanics) are not.GrandmasKid said:I would like to order locking lug nuts for an upcoming trip.
Locking lugs will eventually fail. Someone will strip the special key or worse, you will lose the key or your mechanic will forget to give it back to you. When these strip or if you lose the key you will be unable to service/remove your wheel. The fix for a damaged locking lug (or lost key) is to try and hammer a smaller sized socked over the lug and then pray that you can turn it off. If that fails the next options are drilling the lug or cutting the stud off. None of these are side of the road repairs. If you are worried about someone stealing your wheels, consider using a wheel lock. If I ever purchase a vehicle with locking lugs one of the first things I do is remove them and replace them with standard lugs. I've had some pretty nice wheel sets over the years and I have yet to have a wheel stolen. In the current state of things there's a better chance of the cat's getting cut off of your TV than an RV wheel getting stolen.
Re: Uncomfortable Cushions on 2021 TaBs
I reported very bad cushions to the warranty department and they are not going to do anything about it. The cushions in my 2021 TAb 320 are not up to what should be the Nucamp standard. These cushions compress to the bone when seated and create significant dip when sleeping, even with 2 inch topper. It is better with the topper but the dip when sleeping at my hip is terrible. This happens because of a design flaw. The back cushions are stapled to a 3/4 inch piece of wood while the others are not. So the tension created in the back cushions has much better support than the front cushions. Also the cushions are not at the same height. It is a problem that should be addressed. I am getting ready to try air mattress accross to see if it will fill in the gap enough to be sleepable. Disappointed to say the least with the response I got.
Re: Uncomfortable Cushions on 2021 TaBs
design flaw is this. the heights of the 2 cushions are not the same creating a dip when mass applied to that area. Next design shortcoming is the compression the front cushion is under does not allow for the same firmness as the back cushion attached to the backer bored thereby exasperating the dip phenomenon. This is not a supplier issue. I think they are getting what they asked for. What Nucamp needs is a better understanding of what is causing the problem.
Re: Deciding on the full tent or the awning...
We have gone back and forth on the All Pro tent. We bought the All Pro awning and love it and use it all the time. It is strong, sturdy and easy to put up.
What I came to realize is that in most places we camp it would be impossible to set up the side tent. If we camp on a level field away from other campers, the tent would work. But many times we have a narrow camp site or a table, trees, etc too close to set up a tent. The tent is an expensive investment so before we made the decision, we really paid attention to when we could/would actually use it and realized it wasn’t necessary.
The tent would be great for the grandkids and to keep the Tab clean and maybe one day we will decide to buy it for the occasional use. But for now I have to agree that the visor or the pop up shelter is a great alternative.
mary
Re: Vintage T@B info? Help me identify the source of this electrical PDF!
This almost looks like the font an old time T@B owner used Jerry Jones. Sandra Ruten, if you are here, what do you think?
Re: Tongue Weight Major Concerns?
Totally disagree. This video is a good primer for towing characteristics and loading. Too heavy of a tounge is just as bad as too light of a tongue.Denny16 said:A an increased tongue weight will not decrease stability, but the opposite. Depending on the trailer design you van go to 30% of total trailer weight on the tongue. As for frame stress, the trailer needs to be designed for the heavier loads. Not sure I would want to push a TaB tongue weight, due to its two part frame design with the joint in the front.Cheers
For what it’s worth European engineers are taught to design trailers with hitch weights of 4 to 9 percent.
Re: Keder rail
Yes it can. Anyone who is involved in any kind of manufacturing or construction will tell you that there are still many supply chain issues.CibolaSisu said:COVID can't be the excuse anymore.
