After having the Alde glycol changed, a new axle, a new chassis, a new tire, the Alde high altitude kit installed, and the conversion of the fixed front window to one that opens in my 2015, I will be picking up my T@b this weekend. Another great experience from NuCamp.
2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
The new style front window too? I'm a bit envious...!
Jenn, why a new axle? You already had replaced with the 'Outback' axle, hadn't you?
To be honest, I am not sure. They replaced it under warranty. It could be that they deemed it was a bad axle as they told me one tire had worn unevenly.
2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
@jkjenn, I'm glad they recognized the issue with the axle. That could have caused some major problems down the road (no pun intended) with the uneven tire wear. I'm always in awe, and gratitude when I see nuCamp step up to the plate to take care of issues with their products. Sounds like yet, another pleasant customer experience! Thanks for sharing.
2016 T@B MAX S-aka: WolfT@B TV: 2006 Chevy Avalanche LT Z71 aka: WhiteWolf, or 1972 Chevy Custom10 P/U aka: SnarlingWolf Spokane, Wa. Eric aka: Lone Wolf
The new style front window too? I'm a bit envious...!
Jenn, why a new axle? You already had replaced with the 'Outback' axle, hadn't you?
To be honest, I am not sure. They replaced it under warranty. It could be that they deemed it was a bad axle as they told me one tire had worn unevenly.
Chan - near Buffalo NY 2014 S Maxx 2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah!
The new style front window too? I'm a bit envious...!
Jenn, why a new axle? You already had replaced with the 'Outback' axle, hadn't you?
To be honest, I am not sure. They replaced it under warranty. It could be that they deemed it was a bad axle as they told me one tire had worn unevenly.
I couldn't agree with you, more.
2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
@Verna. No worries, I know they are working this issue. NuCamp has shown many times that they are a stellar company. I will attempt to cultivate this “patience virtue” you mentioned.
Might not be a bad idea to start documenting which rivet is experiencing most of the cracks. Seems many frames are seeing cracks at the front lower rivet.
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Might not be a bad idea to start documenting which rivet is experiencing most of the cracks. Seems many frames are seeing cracks at the front lower rivet.
So far they have all been lower front only. All on the driver side. Two or three on both sides. None on passenger side only.
I've heard back from the factory and based on my past experience, I'm confident they will put customer satisfaction and safety first once they have figured out an agreeable plan to address the problem.
Picked up the T@b and everything looks great! I will try to take some photos tomorrow.
Is it possible to get pictures of the damaged piece after it was disassembled. I would like to see the backside. Could they tell if the cracks were caused by stress of over tightening, or fractures when the dimple was stamped in?
Picked up the T@b and everything looks great! I will try to take some photos tomorrow.
Is it possible to get pictures of the damaged piece after it was disassembled. I would like to see the backside. Could they tell if the cracks were caused by stress of over tightening, or fractures when the dimple was stamped in?
We would have to see if the factory still has it and I betting they don't. Too big to keep around.
2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
Picked up the T@b and everything looks great! I will try to take some photos tomorrow.
Is it possible to get pictures of the damaged piece after it was disassembled. I would like to see the backside. Could they tell if the cracks were caused by stress of over tightening, or fractures when the dimple was stamped in?
We would have to see if the factory still has it and I betting they don't. Too big to keep around.
To bad. I would hope they would examine it to help correct the problem.
I would imagine Norcold, the frame manufacturer, would be the one in a better position to examine the pieces. They would have the expertise and better availability to the correct tools to examine and determine exactly what problem is.
Verna, Columbus, IN 2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B” Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
As an engineer it appears to me that the cracks are propagating from the welds, where poor welding can lead to crack initiation. Things like poor weld rod quality, inadequate weld prep, poor welding skill, etc. can all give rise to stress concentration risers. NuCamp definitely needs to comment if this is a safety issue or not and they need to collect data to see if it is related to specific manufacturing dates (operator), etc.
As an engineer it appears to me that the cracks are propagating from the welds, where poor welding can lead to crack initiation. Things like poor weld rod quality, inadequate weld prep, poor welding skill, etc. can all give rise to stress concentration risers. NuCamp definitely needs to comment if this is a safety issue or not and they need to collect data to see if it is related to specific manufacturing dates (operator), etc.
I don’t see any welds in this area. The fasteners they used appear to be some sort of a rivet.
So far they have all been lower front only. All on the driver side. Two or three on both sides. None on passenger side only.
Ours is on the passenger side. That's because Carl and I like to be different.
According to my records, jkjenn and Normfun also have cracks limited to the passenger side. I'm up to...
Four on both sides. Three on the passenger side only. One on driver's side only. Two unspecified.
My info is based on what I can glean from the comments in this and related threads. It may not be accurate or complete. Corrections and clarifications are welcome!
Might not be a bad idea to start documenting which rivet is experiencing most of the cracks. Seems many frames are seeing cracks at the front lower rivet.
I'll sift back through the reports and--to the extent that I can determine it from photos and descriptions--will add this information to the spreadsheet.
EDIT: As Dale noted previously, of the eight for which I can determine a location, the cracks are limited to the lower front rivet/bolt.
Can anyone verify that Cyclonic's 2012 should be on this list? I know he experienced a catastrophic failure of his aftermarket receiver hitch, but that was T?V related. I can't find any postings verifying any issue with the trailer frame itself.
Cyclonic’s 2012 frame is constructed in a very different way. It is bent just behind the entry door area so that is continue towards the back. Part of the bend is accomplished by apparently scoring the upper flange with what looks to be a grinder. I have the same frame.
The 2015 had a totally different method of making this bend without actually bending the frame.
I do not feel the 2014 or previous frame issues should be included in this count.
Verna, Columbus, IN 2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B” Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
Thanks, Verna. I'll strike Cyclonic's T@B from the record.
I'm curious though... Did the different construction result in some sort of frame damage? From what you said it doesn't sound that way, just that the particular construction method employed might look like damage.
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2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
Jenn, why a new axle? You already had replaced with the 'Outback' axle, hadn't you?
2014 S Maxx
2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah!
A_Little_T@b'll_Do_Ya
2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
TV: 2006 Chevy Avalanche LT Z71 aka: WhiteWolf, or 1972 Chevy Custom10 P/U aka: SnarlingWolf
Spokane, Wa.
Eric aka: Lone Wolf
2014 S Maxx
2011 Tacoma 4cyl ... edit: 2022 Tacoma 6cyl - oh yeah!
A_Little_T@b'll_Do_Ya
2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B”
Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
Spare & bike rack on tongue, Renogy 100w suitcase connection, cargo & door nets, sway bar, wired rear camera, Norcold aux fan, front window protection, frame mounted sewer & water hose storage, Krieger 1500w inverter w/100Ah LIFePO4.
‘17 Honda Ridgeline RTL-E- 5000# tow cap, 600# tongue cap
‘20 Honda Pilot Elite- 5000# tow cap, 500# tongue cap
Huntington LI
bump it from time to time to keep it in the forefront. JMHO
2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B”
Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
2015 max s outback, TV 2011 RAV4, V6, 4x4, & 2017 Tacoma Off-road 4x4
Soquel, CA
2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
2021 T@b 320 Boondock "Mattie Ross" | 2021 T@b Nights: 239 | Total nights in a T@b 455 | 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Overland | T@b owner since 2014
2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B”
Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
CincyKid
Cincinnati, OH
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Four on both sides.
Three on the passenger side only.
One on driver's side only.
Two unspecified.
My info is based on what I can glean from the comments in this and related threads. It may not be accurate or complete. Corrections and clarifications are welcome!
EDIT: As Dale noted previously, of the eight for which I can determine a location, the cracks are limited to the lower front rivet/bolt.
The 2015 had a totally different method of making this bend without actually bending the frame.
I do not feel the 2014 or previous frame issues should be included in this count.
2021 T@B 320S Boondock “The T@B”
Towed by a white 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 Supercab, 3.5L V6 Ecoboost “The Truck”
I'm curious though... Did the different construction result in some sort of frame damage? From what you said it doesn't sound that way, just that the particular construction method employed might look like damage.